[2018-12-12] May the Games Begin: Game-ifying the docs and charting a path forward from last week

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Hi all! This week’s meeting ended a while ago. We mostly did follow-up from last week’s meeting and also discussed some new ideas about game-ifying the Docs contribute-athon event we’ve been discussing here.

Hopefully we will have some new tickets filed before the end of the year for us to drive this forward in 2019. Keep an eye out! Thanks everyone who participated today. Full details are below:

Meeting ended Wed Dec 12 18:03:16 2018 UTC.

#fedora-commops: Fedora CommOps (2018-12-12)

Meeting started by jwf at 17:00:45 UTC. The full logs are available here.

Meeting summary

  • Agenda (jwf, 17:00:50)

  • Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 17:01:07)

    • Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jwf, 17:01:12)
    • ACTION: commops New members, please introduce yourself on the
      CommOps Discourse [
      https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/commops ] (jwf,
      17:01:12)
    • Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, Diversity and Inclusion Team,
      Fedora Badges (jwf, 17:01:28)
    • Alberto Rodriguez S; UTC-6;CommOps, Marketing, Fedora-join, dotnet
      and more (bt0, 17:02:27)
    • John M. Harris, Jr.; UTC-5; CommOps (member), Games (member), 3D
      Printing (member) (JohnMH, 17:05:54)

  • Announcements (jwf, 17:05:59)

    • === Fedora Elections in progress - voting closes Thu, Dec. 20 ===
      (jwf, 17:06:09)
    • LINK: Fedora elections (jwf, 17:06:09)
    • Find candidate interviews on the Community Blog or linked from the
      voting app. Be sure to get your votes in before the polls close on
      Thursday, Dec. 20th. (jwf, 17:06:09)
    • === “Fedora’s Strategic Direction: An Update from the Council” ===
      (jwf, 17:06:24)
    • LINK:
      Fedora's Strategic Direction: An Update from the Council – Fedora Community Blog
      (jwf, 17:06:24)
    • mattdm shares a vision of the future, as discussed last week at the
      Fedora Council hackfest. The Council is looking for feedback on the
      proposal. (jwf, 17:06:24)
    • === “FPgM report: 2018-49” === (jwf, 17:06:38)
    • LINK: FPgM report: 2018-49 – Fedora Community Blog
      (jwf, 17:06:38)
    • You didn’t even have to guess – bcotton has the inside scoop of
      Fedora development in this week’s report. Note the major Red Hat
      Bugzilla upgrade and the cassandra package maintainers looking for
      help. (jwf, 17:06:38)

  • Action items from last meeting (jwf, 17:09:00)

    • LINK:
      [2018-12-04] Docs "contributability" tests and brainstorming on on-boarding
      (jwf, 17:09:07)
    • How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
      for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
      one. If it isn’t, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no
      status, we’ll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jwf,
      17:09:07)
    • === [INCOMPLETE] “jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for
      contributing to docs, create new tickets for each test scenario.
      Due: before 2019.” === (jwf, 17:09:19)
    • ACTION: jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to
      docs, create new tickets for each test scenario, ask for Design Team
      feedback. Due: before 2019 (jwf, 17:09:25)
    • Note: Another action item to request Design Team feedback is part of
      the required follow-up for this to be complete. It is now included
      in this action item. (jwf, 17:09:25)
    • === [COMPLETE] “jwf Start new Discourse thread about the Dilemma of
      the Conflicting Meetings” === (jwf, 17:09:31)
    • LINK:
      New CommOps meeting time in 2019
      (jwf, 17:09:39)
    • Choosing a new time for meetings in 2019. Please review the
      suggested options and let us know your preference if one time works
      better than another for you to join. (jwf, 17:09:39)
    • === [INCOMPLETE] “jwf File new tickets to discuss / plan out ideas
      from 2018-12-04 meeting further” === (jwf, 17:09:49)
    • HELP: If some folks are willing to help with this, it would help to
      distribute the ticket filing. And then jwf doesn’t have to
      re-explain the original ideas that came from others last week. (this
      is on the agenda for tickets — we will revisit soon!) (jwf,
      17:09:58)
    • ACTION: bpabon Create a flowchart based on 2018-12-04 meeting
      discussion (around conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps
      ticket), ready for review by Wed, Dec. 19th (jwf, 17:11:31)
    • === [PARTIALLY COMPLETE] “jwf Post Discourse summary / do ticket
      updates from meeting this week” === (jwf, 17:11:38)
    • LINK:
      [2018-12-04] Docs "contributability" tests and brainstorming on on-boarding
      (jwf, 17:11:45)
    • Summary is up, but not all tickets have updates. Some of the things
      we discussed need new tickets, as per an earlier action item. (jwf,
      17:11:45)

  • Tickets (jwf, 17:12:05)

  • Ticket #159: “Run a “Write the Docs” event targeting Fedora support
    groups” (jwf, 17:12:26)

    • LINK: Issue #159: Run a "Write the Docs" event targeting Fedora support groups - fedora-commops - Pagure.io (jwf, 17:12:26)
    • Next steps: This ticket is currently too big, now that we had a
      chance to talk it through. We had several great ideas from last
      week’s meeting about how to divide this up. Let’s try to come up
      with how we want to break this up and file new tickets for these
      ideas. (jwf, 17:12:26)
    • IDEA: Creating “cheatsheet” of common Fedora tools, applications,
      and resources used across project (jwf, 17:14:55)
    • IDEA: Find way to better document group contacts for different SIGs
      / sub-projects (jwf, 17:15:03)
    • IDEA: Curate list of recurring “easyfix” tasks for CommOps (jwf,
      17:15:11)
    • IDEA: Write a “Fedora jargon cheatsheet” (jwf, 17:15:19)
    • IDEA: “Game-ifying” a docs event, possibly having teams to compete
      for different goals (e.g. “edit X number of pages”, “create X number
      of new pages”, etc.) (jwf, 17:16:16)
    • IDEA: Offering prizes for different categories, e.g. UnixStickers
      swag, gift cards, etc. (jwf, 17:18:46)
    • ACTION: jwf File a new ticket to better document and offer up
      recurring “easyfix” tasks for CommOps by Wed, Dec. 19th (jwf,
      17:29:17)
    • ACTION: bt0 File a new ticket to create a “Fedora jargon”
      cheatsheet, to help explain different terms and phrases often used
      in Fedora (but not obvious to a newcomer or first-timer) by Wed,
      Dec. 19th (jwf, 17:30:34)
    • ACTION: JohnMH Fix dead links in README of the fedora-commops repo
      by Wed, Dec. 19th (JohnMH, 17:31:03)
    • ACTION: bpabon File a new ticket to better document procedure and
      best practices on cross-team communication and collaboration by Wed,
      Dec. 19th (and maybe add the flowchart from previous action there
      once it is ready!) (jwf, 17:32:59)
    • ACTION: meskarune File a new ticket for a “cheatsheet” to explain
      different Fedora tools, apps, and resources and how they are used,
      by Wed, Dec. 19th (jwf, 17:37:04)
    • ACTION: meskarune File a new ticket for brainstorming docs event
      “competition” categories and possible prizes to go with them, by
      Wed, Dec. 19th (jwf, 17:37:33)
    • IDEA: Using Badges to correspond with some of the competition
      categories? (e.g. “Most docs edited in 2019 contribute-athon event”,
      “Most new pages created in 2019 contribute-athon event”, etc.)
      (jwf, 17:39:06)
    • IDEA: Using page views / metrics as an incentive for a “highest
      visibility” fix category? (jwf, 17:42:34)

  • Open floor (jwf, 17:43:41)

Meeting ended at 18:03:16 UTC.

Action Items

  • commops New members, please introduce yourself on the CommOps
    Discourse [ https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/commops ]
  • jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to docs,
    create new tickets for each test scenario, ask for Design Team
    feedback. Due: before 2019
  • bpabon Create a flowchart based on 2018-12-04 meeting discussion
    (around conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps ticket), ready
    for review by Wed, Dec. 19th
  • jwf File a new ticket to better document and offer up recurring
    “easyfix” tasks for CommOps by Wed, Dec. 19th
  • bt0 File a new ticket to create a “Fedora jargon” cheatsheet, to help
    explain different terms and phrases often used in Fedora (but not
    obvious to a newcomer or first-timer) by Wed, Dec. 19th
  • JohnMH Fix dead links in README of the fedora-commops repo by Wed,
    Dec. 19th
  • bpabon File a new ticket to better document procedure and best
    practices on cross-team communication and collaboration by Wed, Dec.
    19th (and maybe add the flowchart from previous action there once it
    is ready!)
  • meskarune File a new ticket for a “cheatsheet” to explain different
    Fedora tools, apps, and resources and how they are used, by Wed, Dec.
    19th
  • meskarune File a new ticket for brainstorming docs event “competition”
    categories and possible prizes to go with them, by Wed, Dec. 19th

Action Items, by person

  • bpabon
    • bpabon Create a flowchart based on 2018-12-04 meeting discussion
      (around conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps ticket),
      ready for review by Wed, Dec. 19th
    • bpabon File a new ticket to better document procedure and best
      practices on cross-team communication and collaboration by Wed, Dec.
      19th (and maybe add the flowchart from previous action there once it
      is ready!)
  • bt0
    • bt0 File a new ticket to create a “Fedora jargon” cheatsheet, to
      help explain different terms and phrases often used in Fedora (but
      not obvious to a newcomer or first-timer) by Wed, Dec. 19th
  • commops
  • JohnMH
    • JohnMH Fix dead links in README of the fedora-commops repo by Wed,
      Dec. 19th
  • jwf
    • jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to docs,
      create new tickets for each test scenario, ask for Design Team
      feedback. Due: before 2019
    • jwf File a new ticket to better document and offer up recurring
      “easyfix” tasks for CommOps by Wed, Dec. 19th
  • meskarune
    • meskarune File a new ticket for a “cheatsheet” to explain different
      Fedora tools, apps, and resources and how they are used, by Wed,
      Dec. 19th
    • meskarune File a new ticket for brainstorming docs event
      “competition” categories and possible prizes to go with them, by
      Wed, Dec. 19th
  • UNASSIGNED
    • (none)

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