Hi all! The minutes are making it to Discourse late, but a meeting happened this week! And it was actually a really interesting one too.
This week, we strayed from topic but ended up critically analyzing how to engage newcomers and also thinking about helpful things we want to write for our own docs. New Pagure tickets are coming soon, but here’s a high-level summary of what we talked about:
- meskarune interested in helping with “contributability” tests (once created)
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Creating “cheatsheet” of common Fedora tools, applications, and resources used across project
- Helpful for people who may not contribute often and try to follow along with where things are happening
- Feedback specifically around emergence of new tools, like Discourse and Fedora Docs site (as I understood it)
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Find way to better document group contacts for different SIGs / sub-projects
- For example: how does someone follow up with an unanswered ticket in CommOps? Infrastructure? Goal is to make it easier / less awkward to do that follow-up
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Curate list of recurring “easyfix” tasks for CommOps
- In the meeting, we talked about using a ticket template. Maybe docs makes sense too. It’s unclear. Could use more thoughts.
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Write a “Fedora jargon cheatsheet”
- Like a vocabulary sheet of different terms, phrases, and tools often used specifically in Fedora community
- Sort of like a Fedora anthropological adventure!
Thanks everyone who contributed to this thoughtful discussion. I have a few action items open to get some of these things ticket-ified, so keep an eye out on Pagure for these.
Meeting ended Wed Dec 5 18:07:16 2018 UTC.
#fedora-commops: Fedora CommOps (2018-12-05)
Meeting started by bt0 at 17:09:52 UTC. The full logs are available here.
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Meeting summary
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Agenda (jwf, 17:11:22)
- LINK:
https://infinote.fedoraproject.org/cgit/infinote/tree/meeting-templates/fedora-commops-meeting-next
(jwf, 17:11:28) - (1) Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 17:11:28)
- (2) Announcements (jwf, 17:11:28)
- (3) Action items from last meeting (jwf, 17:11:28)
- (4) Tickets (jwf, 17:11:29)
- (5) Open floor (jwf, 17:11:30)
- LINK:
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Roll call / Q&A (jwf, 17:11:36)
- Name; Timezone; Sub-projects/Interest Areas (jwf, 17:11:38)
- ACTION: commops New members, please introduce yourself on the
CommOps Discourse [
https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/commops ] (jwf,
17:11:40) - Justin W. Flory; UTC-5; CommOps, D&I Team, Fedora Badges (jwf,
17:12:17) - Alberto Rodriguez S; UTC-6; CommOps, Marketing, dotnet and more
(bt0, 17:13:23)
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Announcements (jwf, 17:14:31)
- === “FPgM report: 2018-48” === (jwf, 17:14:55)
- LINK: FPgM report: 2018-48 – Fedora Community Blog
(jwf, 17:15:01) - Papa Charlie: GMT CommOps (VibroMax, 17:15:31)
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https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/104 (bpabon,
17:17:33)
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Action items from last meeting (jwf, 17:17:50)
- LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/104 doesn’t get
love from the docs folks. (bpabon, 17:18:17) - LINK:
Meetbot Logs
(jwf, 17:18:39) - How This Works: We look at past #action items from the last meeting
for quick follow-up. If a task is completed, we move on to the next
one. If it isn’t, we get an update and re-action if needed. If no
status, we’ll try to get a quick update and move forward. (jwf,
17:18:43) - === [IN PROGRESS] “bt0 Complete a first draft of new CommOps docs
page on suggested Pagure tags (due: Monday, Dec. 3rd)” === (jwf,
17:21:00) - Will discuss further during tickets part of meeting! (jwf,
17:21:01) - === [COMPLETE] “bt0 Write a CommBlog draft to link and explain two
or three CommOps “easyfix” tasks for Winter 2018 (due: Monday, Dec.
3rd)” === (jwf, 17:21:24) - LINK:
https://communityblog.fedoraproject.org/?p=6716&preview=1&_ppp=1017420676
(jwf, 17:21:24) - Draft is complete and ready for review. bt0++ (jwf, 17:21:25)
- === [INCOMPLETE] “jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for
contributing to docs, create new tickets for each test scenario.
Due: Friday, Nov. 30th.” === (jwf, 17:22:05) - ACTION: jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to
docs, create new tickets for each test scenario. Due: before 2019.
(jwf, 17:22:17) - === [INCOMPLETE] “jwf Share test scenarios with Design Team to get
additional feedback” === (jwf, 17:22:29) - ACTION: jwf Share test scenarios with Design Team to get additional
feedback (jwf, 17:22:29) - === [COMPLETE] “bpabon Investigate ways to visualize diagrams from
text further and then open new Pagure / docs-fp-o tickets for
rendering support” === (jwf, 17:23:22) - LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/104 (jwf,
17:23:22) - bpabon opened ticket, but needs additional follow-up from Docs Team
members. Will look closer later in meeting too. bpabon++ for leading
on this. (jwf, 17:23:22) - === [INCOMPLETE] “jwf Start new Discourse thread about the Dilemma
of the Conflicting Meetings” === (jwf, 17:26:06) - ACTION: jwf Start new Discourse thread about the Dilemma of the
Conflicting Meetings (jwf, 17:26:06)
- LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/104 doesn’t get
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Tickets (jwf, 17:26:42)
- LINK:
Issues - fedora-commops - Pagure.io
(jwf, 17:26:42)
- LINK:
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Ticket #159: “Run a “Write the Docs” event targeting Fedora support
groups” (jwf, 17:28:43)- LINK: Issue #159: Run a "Write the Docs" event targeting Fedora support groups - fedora-commops - Pagure.io (jwf, 17:28:43)
- meskarune interested in helping with running through the test cases
once ready (jwf, 17:29:00) - HELP: bpabon looking for additional feedback from Fedora Docs team
members on Discourse thread (jwf, 17:29:17) - LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-docs/docs-fp-o/issue/104 (jwf,
17:30:12) - IDEA: Should CommOps create a list of common tools with descriptions
of what they are in our own documentation? (jwf, 17:38:53) - IDEA: What if we created a “Fedora vocabulary sheet” with the
buzzwords / jargon / unique vocabulary from across the Fedora
community (jwf, 17:39:19) - ACTION: jwf File new tickets to discuss / plan out these ideas
further (jwf, 17:41:00) - ACTION: bpabon Create a flowchart based on meeting discussion
(around conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps ticket),
review at next meeting (jwf, 18:01:56) - HELP: Create an updated list of sub-project contact info (jwf,
18:02:53) - IDEA: Create list of tasks for newbies to do in CommOps (jwf,
18:03:01) - IDEA: New ticket templates for recurring, easy fix tasks (e.g.
certain CommBlog articles, fedmsg mini-experiments, etc.) (jwf,
18:04:58) - ACTION: jwf Post Discourse summary / do ticket updates from meeting
this week (jwf, 18:07:10)
Meeting ended at 18:07:16 UTC.
Action Items
- commops New members, please introduce yourself on the CommOps
Discourse [ https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/commops ] - jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to docs,
create new tickets for each test scenario. Due: before 2019. - jwf Share test scenarios with Design Team to get additional feedback
- jwf Start new Discourse thread about the Dilemma of the Conflicting
Meetings - jwf File new tickets to discuss / plan out these ideas further
- bpabon Create a flowchart based on meeting discussion (around
conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps ticket), review at
next meeting - jwf Post Discourse summary / do ticket updates from meeting this week
Action Items, by person
- bpabon
- bpabon Create a flowchart based on meeting discussion (around
conventions / expectations for filing a CommOps ticket), review at
next meeting
- bpabon Create a flowchart based on meeting discussion (around
- commops
- commops New members, please introduce yourself on the CommOps
Discourse [ https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/c/project/commops ]
- commops New members, please introduce yourself on the CommOps
- jwf
- jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to docs,
create new tickets for each test scenario. Due: before 2019. - jwf Share test scenarios with Design Team to get additional feedback
- jwf Start new Discourse thread about the Dilemma of the Conflicting
Meetings - jwf File new tickets to discuss / plan out these ideas further
- jwf Post Discourse summary / do ticket updates from meeting this
week
- jwf Draft set of user testing scenarios for contributing to docs,
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