Quality of Life request for Nvidia Users: GTX 900 and 1000 GPUs' driver support drops at version 580

Good morning.

I’ll be as brief as possible (I HAVE to preemptively answer some questions and criticisms in the opening posts; I have asperger, explaining myself is more of a necessity than anything else; PLEASE read the entire thing before forming an opinion OR deciding to “respond in slices”, it’s important) (I write this way because I also have a problem reading, large blocks/squares of text merge into each other, making it impossible to read them [for me] if the spacing between the lines is this small):


Soon” all GTX 900 and 1000s GPUs, except the 1650 and 1660 ones, will no longer be supported by Nvidia’s drivers.

I have a proposition, for the sake of the End-Users (who don’t even want to see the Konsole):

Other than a possible Pop-up/notification telling users that this is happening
(so if my proposition is refuted, at least people will be ready to lock their version on their own, if they want to)
I propose the addition of a User-Interface_based_option_window which allows users to decide if they want to lock their current GPU Driver version OR change it to Nouveau.
{I believe this may fall only on RPMfusion’s team, but maybe the main Fedora’s team would have to put their hands on it too.}


addendum

I HAVE to put this here because there’s no better place to insert it:

I don’t know about Macs, never had one, never used one, but on Windows the GPU’s Drivers don’t update if you don’t fish for the tool designated for that (GeForce Experience) or don’t fish a different Driver from their website.

“But you can decide to not update on Fedora too” doesn’t work where BOTH on the UI and with the Konsole it’s like 6 different options/lines which the End-User has no idea what they are, how they work and what could break if we don’t do things correctly.
{This later connects to the “Linux is NOT a unified platform, AND THAT’S GOOD.” section of this post.}


Longer part of the post:

“Why a User-Interface_option Isaac? Linux is all about the Konsole!!” —>

—> I know you will say, and to this I respond with “That’s why no one knows Android is, somewhat, a version of Linux: it just works.”.

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I have no idea how many people are using Fedora specifically, but seen that among ALL the Distros out there, Linux use by End-Users is around 4% (at the time of me writing this) it’s not in the millions.
I argue that it’s not only better to not wait for the amount of normie users to raise up, but it’d help that number grow by preemptively adding a UI-solution to problems like these,
because even for me, the in-between-man (neither normie nor software/hardware-eldritch-god), using the Konsole AT ALL is a bothersome job;
but also, for something which BOTH main competitors (Windows and Apple) already have a UI-solution, it not merely make Linux “feel” inferior to them, but it makes Linux ACTUALLY be inferior.

Linux is NOT a unified platform, AND THAT’S GOOD.
Linux is mainly used in servers. Then the individuals, be them End-Users or not, can use different Distros on their own devices.

This is something which Linux Developers tend to get confused about.

The average “End-User” is the mom who watches music on YouTube, the dad who uses Excel for taxes, the grandpa who uses the Mail system to check mails.

It’s been years since all of these things can be accomplished by smartphones and tablets,
and also for these basic tasks Linux overall is already decent,
but for those End-Users which are a little more advanced (the gamers, the ones working CAD or 3D, the modders, the nuts who make Linux run on 17yo hardware) there’s the search for “the Distro which can compete with Windows”, because no matter how much of :ghost:“an unspeakable taboo”:ghost: Windows is to be talked about in the Linux spaces is,
people’s Computers are like their cars:

We all may like to clean them, refill the windows’ washer fluid, go pump gas and whatever,
but the amount of End-Users who repair their cars on their own is very little, that’s why we bring our cars to the mechanics;
and the amount of people who ACTUALLY BUILD their own car from 0, be them legos-like prefabs or “designing their own” is a % that can be counted on the tip of half a finger.

People bought Windows-cars because they just worked, and well,

but now there’s so much electronic nonsense, “forever-subscriptions” to use the components they bought and just STRAIGHT-UP SPYING that some are seeking refuge away from Windows,

but in almost all cases Linux-cars strongly lack in necessary quality-of-life features, if they even work in the first place.


To close this already-too-long post I want to condense my message:

I miss Windows 7, EVERYONE misses Windows 7.
It just worked, it didn’t spy, even with-and-when the TERRIBLE “Microsoft Store” was a thing almost everything was still “buy & it’s yours” and the telemetry was non-existent.

The average End-Users like me want a Linux Distro which is like what W7 was:
Predictably functional, updates didn’t make your computer explode (1 2) and the OS is supported by a large, reliable group.

THAT is why I chose Fedora for all the computers in my home:

No matter the reputation or the abilities of smaller groups, or individuals, I want the “safety” and reliability of a large group working on my Operating System.
{Arch is not good for people like me because I want TO USE my computer, not to BABYSIT IT (otherwise it’ll find a fork and put it in an electric socket).}

I started using Fedora KDE as 38 was near its end, and 39 then came in.
40 solved A LOT of things which just STRAIGHT UP DIDN’T WORK in 39 and 41 was even better.

I really don’t want to change Distro because I find myself comfortable with Fedora KDE, but this doesn’t mean it’s already done/perfect.

I strongly believe that Fedora should focus on who it is for: End-Users.

From the normies to the advanced End-Users it must become more user-friendly, and that includes more options through a clearer UI.

This was announced a while ago. I am hoping that RPMfusion people will package up the last version of the Nvidia code that they release. As they did with two previous times this happend.

There is also work going into make nouveau support more features.
But I do not know if that will make the older nvidia GPUs work.

Note that nouveau is also being phased out and replaced with nova_core

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Mate,
click on the glowing blue “Soon”.

Ok,
but regardless if it’ll perform better or worse than stock Nvidia drivers,
they will still have to ask the End-User of that machine.