I am really starting to miss Mac’s Finder. Gnome’s Files app seems so buggy and counterintuitive, no doubt partly due to my being so used to Mac’s Finder, but not completely.
2 examples in last 5 minutes, which are constant bugbears for me, so thought I’d ask in case there’s a fix or suggestion to resolve:
In Dialogues, many images don’t have a thumbnail, screenshots I took using Gnome, for example, as well as images sent via Signal. It’s just a placeholder image, which makes it impossible for me to SEE the damn picture I am trying to attach for whatever reason! This happens in browser dialogues (to upload files), and other apps and OS apps as well. Why can’t it show a thumbnail of all images?
Why doesnt ‘recents’ show, er, RECENT files?! I just saved a zip file I downloaded from the web. It’s in Downloads folder. I went to an upload dialogue online, in Recents it’s not theere, not at all, nowhere in the list. When I go to ‘Downloads’, there she is. What’s the point in Recents if it’s not reliable?!
Wrong assumption, newest means “not previously existing”, so a single event or file, while recent means “made in a period of the past comparatively close to the present”, that is a set of events.
He claims the file, or files, recently opened, are simply absent. It does not happen even in F41 beta.
I am gobsmacked by the insulting attitude. Let me set you straight on a few things:
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I’ve just double checked your assertions. Everything works as it is supposed to do. Nothing similar happens.
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FOR YOU, you mean? ‘Assertions’ - What, you think I’m spending time writing fake stuff? My post didn’t contain one single ‘assertion’, it contained DESCRIPTIONS, descriptions of EXACTLY what happens FOR ME on MY computer. The fact it doesn’t happen for you is neither relevant, nor helpful. Furthermore, it’s insulting to assume because it doesn’t happen for you, I must be lying, which is exactly how your post reads. You didn’t even give one iota of credence to the notion that maybe, JUST EFFING MAYBE, it IS happening on one computer in the world: mine.
Definition of “RECENT” - This could be an area of confusion, of course. My assumption was that it means the most recently ACCESSED (not created), by the OS in general, maybe not in files. For example, I get a picture by email, I save it to my ‘Pictures’ folder. Then I go to another app to send it to someone else, maybe in browser, I open a dialogue to attach a file, and it’s there at top of ‘Recents’. Except that doesn’t always happen, example given in detail in my OP.
I do not use Terminal at all, whether that makes any difference I don’t know (I am sure it shouldn’t, but who knows), so with @caeser mentioning he tested my ‘assertions’ using Terminal accessing a file, I thought it relevant to point out that I have not, and do not do that.
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He claims the file, or files, recently opened, are simply absent. It does not happen even in F41 beta.
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Unreal. Just unreal. Yeah, I made it all up, I have nothing better to do after all.
I guess I’ll just wait until it happens again and VIDEO IT FOR YOU, then you can accuse me of creating a ‘deep fake’ AI generated video, I assume.
Regarding the issue with thumbnails, you might be experiencing this bug. Is your configuration similar (list view and smallest icons)? I can reproduce the issue with that setup. If different, this bug might be of interest.
Regarding issue no. 2 (Recent folder), are you using a flatpak version of some browser? There is such a bug reported, I couldn’t reproduce it though.
That is a fair assumption. However, the programmers who created the files app didn’t implement it that way. Each app keeps their own list of recent accessed files, and bassically doesn’t know what any of the other apps does. Maybe it should do that, but that would make the programs a lot more complicated.
Yes I think i use list view and smallest icons, not 100% sure but quite possible yes.
I used to use flatpak of Brave, but switched to RPM due to bugs (similar to those you’re probably referring to). In fact I started out on Fedora sticking to Flatpak as sounded most secure/private, but soon discovered apps tend to run far better as RPMs (Thunderbird especially)
Forgive me, but I am not sure I understand fully. if I do, it begs the question ‘why have recents at all?!’. If each app keeps its own list of recently accessed files, that sounds very weird, firstly many people use flatseal to limit access to full system by many apps, so that would surely break such an implementation?
I don’t really understand why Files doesn’t keep its own list of recently accessed files, and use that to generate ‘Recent’ list. But then I am no developer, just sounds very odd to me.
The funniest thing is, I used Mac for 20+ years and only recently switched to Fedora. In all that time, I hated the ‘recents’ stuff being forced on me in Mac Finder so i turned it all off! I decided to give it a whirl in Fedora/Gnome as I can see the utility in it, at least in principle. But I have found it too unreliable to use, as, even if only once a week, if a file I want isn’t there in Recents and I have to go hunting for it, that time suck costs me more than if I just did that every time as part of my normal workflow!
I don’t really understand why Files doesn’t keep its own list of recently accessed files, and use that to generate ‘Recent’ list. But then I am no developer, just sounds very odd to me.
It’s a database of the files the user has recently used, it’s handled by the gtk library.
You can look at the file: ~/.local/share/recently-used.xbel
It seems like the contention here is more about what constitutes a recently “used” file.
I can confirm the downloaded files from firefox or chrome did not show up in recents until I opened them in an application.
Would using KDE offer an alternative way around this? I ask because I have been thinking of trying out KDE for a long while, just not had time yet. Just not sure whether this issue is Gnome dependant, or at a lower level that than in the system.
