A few notes on the spins... More specifically Cinnamon

Cinnamon…hacks. I install and update. Then I start and it hangs!! Then it started at the end of the installation and it hung on the script at the end. Crazy, something has to be done. Then I start and it hangs. I installed some more software and it’s irrelevant. It hangs when I start. Whoever programmed it should take a look. MINT runs better!!! What a shame!

Just use Gnome or KDE, that’s where the dev work goes. Window Managers also work well.

Many people think there are too many official ‘spins’.

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Why would I need to look at cinnamon when it works fine here on both my test machines (nvidia gtx 1650 and ‘AMD Ryzen 3 4300U with Radeon Graphics’).

With regard to Leigh, it might be nice to spell out what system you are using @achim-6425 and what the software you have installed. People do like and use Cinnamon to great effect.

There are 11 reported issues, none of them are seems similar.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&classification=Fedora&component=cinnamon&list_id=13544311&product=Fedora&product=Fedora

Hangs and freezes are normally low level, either drivers are hardware.

One should always start with Fedora Workstation and install the other desktops later on as additional options ( this has always worked best for me so far ). The spins are unfortunately not as well tested, and I’ve had similar bad experiences with them. You should try the Budgie desktop. It also looks a bit like Windows and feels like it uses the same programs as GNOME.

I’ve been using Cinnamon on various 65 watt TDP AMD platforms for over a decade. The only unfixed bug that I have encountered is:

Bug 2323389 - Fsarchiver v8.5 ships with Fedora 40 but cannot archive and restore a Fedora 40 or Fedora 41 ext4 OS partition

so what iso did you use i just released new set of updated isos today http://tinyurl.com/Live-respins

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  1. Why does the script hang at the end when updating? Then I try to start it and it hangs. When I start it again it hangs.

CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i7-8700T (12) @ 4.00 GHz
GPU 1: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Mobile [Discrete]
GPU 2: Intel UHD Graphics 630 @ 1.20 GHz [Integrated]
Memory: 4.59 GiB / 15.30 GiB (30%)
Swap: 0 B / 8.00 GiB (0%)
Disk (/): 16.87 GiB / 930.51 GiB (2%) - btrfs
Disk (/run/media/achimk8899/LINUX): 9.30 GiB / 233.19 GiB (4%) - vfat [External]

So it stays hanging

I don’t want to criticize you or doubt your competence. That’s why this platform exists to ask questions and find solutions, I think it’s a shame. Because I already have Spin KDE on the main hard drive and I wanted Cinnamon for part of it. Fedora Kde Spin Super!1 I tried to install it again today on a 200 GB hard drive. The same problem again mmmm. I’m doing great, as a programmer I’m also a fan of Fedora.

Try running this from a terminal

sudo dnf swap dnfdragora* gnome-software

I don’t manage the cinnamon spin, the spin maintainer chose to use dnfdragora

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ok, thank You

will repeat what some others have said: been using the cinnamon spin for ages, since it’s existed (and Fedora overall since Fedora Core 1), I won’t say no problems ever, but nothing like you mention. However, the dnfdragora setup isn’t super-stable, every so often the updater gets stuck and won’t work; killing the daemon doesn’t seem to help. Since just calling dnf on the command line works as always, that’s no more than an irritant, it’s certainly not essential to keeping your system running and up to date.

Ok,thank you

Thanks to everyone, it’s always good when you write to specialists here. It works, I now have 2 disputes.

Installed and running the Cinnamon spin since early Fedora 40 and no real issues so far.

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Another happy cinnamon spin user… I’d check what’s running on your systen when it ‘hangs’, ie sudo ps axfwwu | tee ps.log. It can be some post install script, the on on your screenshot might relabel selinux

Hello,

just to shed some light on the testing coverage. Fedora Workstation and Fedora KDE are both release blocking desktops, so whenever a serious bug is found in them, it has to be fixed before Fedora can be released. This is where most of the treatment from the devs and QA goes.

With other desktops and spin, we rely on community support and we hope there will be enough people willing to get their hands dirty with development or testing and bug reporting, so these other desktops could also flourish.

If you’d like to join in testing Cinnamon or other desktops, you can follow the Fedora Release Criteria and find bugs in any non-blocking desktop the same way you would do for Gnome and KDE. You can find the criteria here Fedora Release Criteria - Fedora Project Wiki.

We also have a test plan, where you could find the result matrices and you can report the results of your testing there: QA:Release validation test plan - Fedora Project Wiki. Just click on the field of interest of yours (Installation, Desktop, etc.) and go on.

Bugs are best to be filed into upstream projects.

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Besides, Mint works better with Cinnamon because Cinnamon was developed for Mint ONLY, it is open source and anybody can use it but it is NOT meant to be used outside Mint, meaning it is tested only against Mint and designed for the needs of Mint, which is derived from Ubuntu or Debian.