Pronoun field change

I have changed the field for personal pronouns to a fixed list of options rather than providing free-form entry. The free form option seems to have been confusing to some people, and others were using it to put in, frankly, silly things. It’s okay to be silly in Fedora, but there are plenty of other places to do it.

We provide a standard place to provide this information for several reasons. First: trans people are welcome here. Fedora is a place for all. Second: we are a global project, and it is not always obvious across cultures if a particular name is traditionally associated with men or women (or not). English is not a strongly-gendered language, but personal pronouns are, and for many people being referred to correctly is important. (Other people don’t care, of course, but… using people’s preferred way to refer to themselves is a way to show respect.)

Since people were using the free-form field in ways other than these reasons, it was not properly serving its intended purpose — so, this change.

You have the option of leaving the field blank if you prefer that. That’s fine. If you prefer terminology not in the necessarily-limited list, you can elaborate on your profile (within, of course, the normal rules for site content).

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Thanks for this.

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Why even have it?

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Like @mattdm clearly figured out. Fedora is a place where we welcome all people. It doesn’t matter which gender you have or sexual orientation.

Fedora is a community for all users!

Be respectful and keep this in mind!

v/r

Andi

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I didn’t say that. I asked why even have it? Does it matter for an operating system to have pronouns? Just be a great operating system and keep the wokeness out of it.

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You don’t get the point. A Linux distro can’t be “neutral”. We have Code of Conduct etc.
If you don’t agree that we are standing for an open-minded community and welcoming all, then you can reflect about your opinion.
For sure, we’re respecting your view as well. But vice versa we are expecting that you are respecting and tolerating our rules and having pronouns!

v/r

Andi

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I don’t think the intention was to assign a pronoun to the OS. However, this is a discussion community where people interact. If someone has a preferred pronoun they preferred to be called, there is a place to share it.

It is especially useful in a situation like this because it is often not at all obvious what gender someone is on the internet.

Is it intentional that you can select ------------------- as one of the pronoun options?

If we are going to keep replying to each other in both threads…

You are not getting the point. Any Linux distro can be neutral, and they all should be. I am actively looking now for a new one that is neutral and doesn’t care about wokeness. I have yet to see anything great come from SJWs and wokeness.

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There should be no intention nor any need. For instance, I have no idea if you are a biological man or a biological woman or which you identify as. I don’t care.

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I fully agree to it!

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So, you are just a critical person about SJWs? Then if you want to troll further, you are not in the right place doing this.
There is no need for a Linux distro to be neutral in your understanding!

@dalto pointed it good out!

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I am not implying that you should care. However, there are often situations during a discussion where you need to refer to someone in the 3rd person. In this case, a pronoun is pretty useful language feature.

Since you are in a situation where you want to use a pronoun and there are often no contextual clues as to which would be most appropriate, having a preferred pronoun feature lets you know which one makes sense.

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I didn’t know this was part of the profile. Thanks for letting us know. I added mine.

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