Intel HD graphics problem

Hey,
I’m new to Fedora, had some previous experience with Ubuntu flavors.
I installed Fedora XFCE on an old laptop through safe graphics mode and it runs properly.
However, the problem is that somehow it seems that graphics run with llvmpipe.
Laptop has Pentium J3710, 4Gb RAM, 128 mmc and Intel HD.
Followed some genius AI advice and tried to install a file to make it run the hd driver, but it didn’t work, I couldn go through the initial black screen and re-installed.
If I keep everything as is, everything is too slow when it comes to browsing and any kind of streaming is impossible.
Any ideas?
Thanks!

Anyone? Pls help if you can.

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Well, after digging a little I found out that my laptop runs this older weak Pentium J3710 with Intel HD 405.
Seems it is a well known problem that in the best case scenario Linux runs with software rendering graphics.
I found this and tried it but had no success- no i915 devices found.
Does anyone know anything on this?

I’d try installing Intel DDX:

sudo dnf install 'xorg-x11-drv-intel' -y

Or if it’s already installed, remove it so default modesetting gets used.

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I would say Fedora is not meant for very low end PCs and I am using one with similar specs than yours, the CPU is even worse. I manage to use Fedora Workstation with Gnome and it more or less works. Gnome desktop takes about 1.1-1.2G of RAM idle and I have 4 with shared video memory. When I open Firefox, after a little while I am above 3G of used RAM.

“Streaming” means a Youtube video at 480p takes 80% CPU on both cores because those are VP9 or even worse AV1 videos and I can “hardware decode” videos via VAAPI only with H264. I can force Youtube to provide H264 videos, the CPU goes about 50-60% but the quality is much worse.

If I wanted to use XFCE instead, probably I would not opt for Fedora either Xubuntu, I would go for plain old Debian. It makes no difference for videos, it is just a bit less demanding.

Thanks, but the same laptop running Windows 10 until recently, might be heavy and slow for everything but at least any videos on YouTube were streaming properly and the same happened with Netflix!
And Linux is supposed to be- and is- lighter. Clearly I have an issue with the hardware not being used as it should.

Thanks man, I’ll definitely try this.

Nope “linux” is not “lighter”.
There are some areas where “linux” is not as good as Windows, for example video games and in our case, video encoding-decoding. It is always the same problem, given the “consumer market”, everybody invests in developing and testing for Windows. Even when “linux” Open Source code is realeased and no reverse engeneering is required, the “linux” stuff is subpar. I bet Intel hardware and Intel drivers work better with Windows while any Windows software works better with Intel hardware and drivers than “linux” alternatives. Lets consider an example, Firefox. Even if guys at Mozilla probably like “linux”, most resources are invested in keeping Firefox competitive on Windows where it competes with Chrome and MS Chrome mod. Hardware acceleration on “linux” (with the complication of X11 and all the Wayland compositors) is an afterthought. To the point I think Chrome doesn’t even try because who cares.

I have the weirdest issue still-standing with FlightGear where it’s 15 FPS on Windows, but 70 FPS no problem Linux and FreeBSD :stuck_out_tongue: (Intel UHD 630)

Come on. It is just about “popularity” or “the year of Linux on the desktop”. I chose “linux” knowing it will get me some annoyances. Until we try to sell it as “better than Windows” we fail. It will get better as more and more people use it and here I don’t mean Google or Facebook on server side, I mean the consumers.

It could be “hardware accelerated” by some laws (see the EU discussion) but this is another topic.

Well, that did it. It was already installed, I removed it and now the system uses the built in HD graphics card.
Thanks man! :+1:t2:

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So, nope it didn’t work after all. I think I’ll have to go back to windows for this laptop.

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