Hello! Landed to Fedora Workstation 41 from Debian 12 (Bookworm) 2 days ago

I am not a Linux expert. I abandoned Windows only 7 months ago and landed on Debian 12 bookworm. Debian is a great system but I wanted something more configurable, reliable and with a modern DE already installed. After listening and reading many opinions I downloaded Kinoite: I did not find it bad but I find it too limiting for some installations of programs I normally use even if I understand the purpose. Right now I installed Fedora Workstation 41 on my recent Lenovo laptop and on an old HP workstation PC to which I mounted a 1 TB SSD and 8 GB RAM. Well, I must say that it runs smoothly. I feared the worst. I must say that I had no problems installing and switching from deb to rpm. I hope I never have to ask for help here. So far, with Debian I’ve always managed on my own, with the help of material found on the net and with a bit of intuition so I think I can do the same in case of difficulties but. if I need help, I will surely bother someone more experienced than me here on the forum :slight_smile: . Happy 2025 to all.

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Glad to see you are liking Fedora. We are happy to answer questions, or just chat about Fedora.

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Welcome to the community :classic_smiley:

Don’t fear to ask questions. There is no need to avoid it “as long as possible” or so. Even experienced users (which always links to “experienced” in what? :smiley: ) do that as many minds solve problems quicker and better than one mind, and if one experiences a problem, it is likely that others experience it as well. The elaborations in a question topic can be very valuable to subsequent readers. This means, in our Discourse forums, we consider even the question as contribution. So feel free to make use of the means we have :wink:

But I am curious, is it the immutable approach of Kinoite that made you migrate to Workstation, or was it the DE that made you migrate? (Kinoite [immutable KDE DE] to Fedora Workstation [mutable GNOME DE] rather than Fedora KDE Spin [mutable KDE]). Just curiousity after reading your post :grin:

Enjoy Fedora!

Did you install Fedora KDE or switch to GNOME too?

And if you want to open “how to install x on atomic desktops” threads here, feel free. You can install most of the stuff, documentation is too restricting.

Useful tags:

atomic-desktops kinoite silverblue rpm-ostree (we try to tag all posts that are about general problems as atomic-desktops )

Glad to see you on board and happy 2025.

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Thanks you for your comment. I currently use KDE Plasma 6 on Fedora Workstation 41, so this is not a preference due to aesthetics. I was already of the opinion that I wanted to use KDE Plasma 6. The use of the rpm-ostree command was not difficult to understand either, and even the concept and practice of layering is easily understood even by a beginner like me. The real reason is that I like to experiment and have learned in these few months many things from my mistakes on Debian 12 whereas with Kinoite it is too difficult to make mistakes so big that applications and OS are almost irreparable because it is easier to recover the previous image (better than TimeShift for sure IMHO). Also, on Kinoite I had to struggle a bit to solve problems due to the connection going hiccup and the installation of ProtonVPN. What amazed me, on the other hand, was the ease with which it also recognized my somewhat elderly HP multifunction printer, which I instead had to struggle a bit to get running on this Fedora Workstation 41 KDE Plasma 6 because it didn’t recognize it. Ciao :four_leaf_clover:

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Thank you. I’m on Fedora 41 Workstation KDE Plasma 6.

“Workstation” only means the GNOME variant for some reason. But the Fedora+KDE community is really active, so it is not a subpar desktop.

This tends to imply you installed Workstation (with gnome) then after the fact added the kde plasma DE.

If instead you installed the kde plasma spin then you are not running the workstation version and to avoid confusion should not refer to it like such. Workstation and KDE have significant differences.
Instead of Fedora Workstation 41 KDE Plasma 6 you would use Fedora 41 KDE Plasma 6 or simply Fedora KDE 41

No. I have downloaded the iso directly from this page. This download offered the Plasma 6 DE: Fedora Workstation | The Fedora Project.

No it doesnt? these URLs offer it

https://fedoraproject.org/spins

https://torrent.fedoraproject.org

(But I think we are clear you have installed the “Fedora KDE Plasma Spin”)

Another switcher, though still in progress :slight_smile: After, without exaggeration, nearly a year of kicking tires, I settled on Fedora KDE. I’ve gone through literally 30+ distros/DE combinations and Fedora with KDE works best for me, and I like KDE software, their philosophy of making highly customizable software (with few exceptions, LOL), they make some of the best desktop apps IMHO. I used Krita on Windows for years.

Like @cloudmaster I realized I liked Plasma and KDE so I went on to look for the best distro match and Fedore KDE was it. It’s ahead of Debian, Mint and even Ubuntu but not as cutting edge as Arch and more beginner friendly than Arch. The easiest NVIDIA drivers installation too. Some distros still ship with Plasma 5 which had some issues and make it a pain to install latest NVIDIA drivers. Fedora feels just right.

I ran Ubuntu servers as a hobby for years so I was familiar with Ubuntu/Debian side of things and I recently switched my servers to Debian. So, there is a bit of learning curve with Fedora, but nothing on the Ubuntu/Debian side worked for me as a desktop.

I also realized that both Fedora and KDE forums are very helpful and free of the usual boasting and bickering common to many other Linux communities, that can be very discouraging to new Linux users.

I don’t want to distro hop once I make the pick, so I think I picked well. Fedora is also an old and stable distro, should be around for a while.

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Fedora was spun off (more than 20 years back) from redhat which was one of the earliest linux distros, and is still supported by (and supports) redhat. I expect fedora to exist as long as redhat is around.

Yeah, I played around with RedHat couple of decades ago :slight_smile: But when I came back to Linux few years ago I kind of ignored RedHat, it being all enterprise focused these days and all, and Fedora didn’t cross my mind at first as everybody is telling you to use Ubuntu these days.

I have my new Gen 13 CPU PC is on Fedora and the old laptop on AlmaLinux 9.5. Kind of like having a new sports car and a pickup. Both are awesome. Debian is excellent as well.

No need to go around insulting people. Debian is rock solid as a server.

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Welcome. I’m sure you’ll enjoy Fedora and KDE

I personally stumbled upon it after quite a few unsuccessful distro hops. All of the beginner friendly distros didn’t quite do it for me. But it did make me realise I like KDE and set about to find a stable base for it. Although I’m currently using Ultramarine KDE, it’s still based on Fedora and it’s the longest distro I’ve ever run on any of my PCs. The only reason I use this over straight Fedora was it installs all the stuff I would normally do anyway after an install. Just less steps.

Even though Fedora’s a rolling release, I still find it more stable than some of the LTS releases for the simple fact it’s always being updated with bug fixes. All of the updates can be a little much sometimes, but I only update every couple of weeks anyway (unless it’s got security updates).

Cloud Master

Debian is a great system but I wanted something more configurable, reliable and with a modern DE already installed.

Debian is just configurable as any other distro.
Reliable… unless you create a frankendebian, Debian is as reliable as it gets.
You can choose from a list of DE’s during installation or manually install DE of choice afterwards.

Always happy to see a fellow Fedora user butr the reasoning feels a bit off to me :roll_eyes:

Installing latest Plasma 6 and latest NVIDIA drivers is too much PITA on Debian. I have Debian 12 with Cinnamon as my server, most applications don’t follow Cinnamon dark mode, it looks awful but I only want a basic desktop UI in case there is something I can’t do over SSH, so I don’t care. It’s a great server, but for a desktop, nope, thank you, I want something that works well and looks good out of the box without excessive tinkering.