Fedora kde 41 clipboard is a mess!

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It has happened 3 times, everytime i copied a highlighted sentence; then paste, the paste output is not something i have copied and surely not what i want to copy.

This is mind baffling. Never encounter such thing before. However when i restart fedora, the problem goes away. Some time later along the way, that problem appears again… no idea what causes it to be like that… could it be resume from hibernation that causes that ? no idea… very very annoying when i cant even copy and paste properly.

I have fedora 41 kde installed less than a month. It was initially great… as i was trying to get use to it, it went through a few times of system update (i thought fedora don’t update often like arch based which is rolling update, that’s why i want to use it as daily OS)… no time to play around with issues after each update. I also don’t know if those system update causing the issue or not… As i have said, initially after fresh installation, i have not encounter such copy & paste (not what i copied) issue.

Anybody have similar encounter ?

What is pasted then? Does it happen with specific apps?

All operating systems with some sense of security get updates. It’s just that most of your updates on Fedora should be minor bug fixes and security patches, unlike Arch where you frequently get updates that change the way things work significantly. Fedora does make some exceptions though, notably for the kernel and KDE, so those are updated in a rolling fashion.

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Started with F41, and I’m using Workstation/GNOME. Copy/paste is something I never thought could be made inconsistent :stuck_out_tongue:

I had it happen with ptyxis and gnome-console with certain commands, and keepassxc and other things to/from Firefox.

First time i notice that issue: i don’t know what the pasted output comes from (apparently a certain part of a line from somewhere)… I suspect could be from something my mouse have accidentally highlighted…
As I copied URL of youtube video, when i paste it, it is something else… which totally not the part of url at all. When that happened, i can just copy as many time as i would, and everytime the thing that pasted is totally not what i copied (if not mistaken, same thing over and over reside register that were pasted).

I will observe more of what the paste content is the next time this issue occurs. Right now what i can provide is just this above.

I don’t understand what you were trying to say.

It was a link to a post where I mentioned other copy/paste issues (I didn’t quote the context my bad :stuck_out_tongue: )

Updates without a reboot or logging in again can be problematic. If the software you are currently using and have open is updated it can exhibit weird behavior. The automatic updates may or may not force a reboot and may or may not happen totally in the background.

I do not depend on the automatic updates for this reason (among others) but instead manually perform updates with dnf so I can ensure 1) I know what is updated and when, and 2) I can restart my session at my convenience.

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You are totally right!

When i first expose to linux, a lot of linux users in forum teasing windows os that it require restart at every update… they said linux don’t need restart…etc… making it as linux is so wonderfully perfect.
After using linux, i realized it is NOT really true what they claimed over windows OS. Especially after i used Fedora, i realized, it is better to restart after update… else will have some sort of minor issue… ya…

Would you share with me what is Your procedure to go about updating ? just in case there is something i can learn from.
Thanks

Yes I think I have a similar problem!

Report a bug on bugs.kde.org

I think the difference is more with installing new software than updating existing software. Updates often (but not always) require restarts, but freshly installed software rarely requires a restart on Linux (whereas Windows usually does).

  1. Open a terminal window
  2. run the command sudo dnf upgrade --refresh
  3. reboot or at least log out then back in
  4. Repeat steps 1-3 on your own schedule.
    sometimes updates are released quite frequently, often weekly.

To prevent the automatic updates when shutting down or rebooting run
sudo systemctl disable packagekit-offline-update
sudo systemctl mask packagekit-offline-update

This means you no longer get the checkbox in the shutdown confirmation popup to install pending updates.

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I use windows for decades…
It is really depending on what kind of software installed… most software don’t need restart windows os… only those huge softwares (well not many… not that i can still recall the name, but i sure have encountered before).
However when install windows drivers… almost always need restart of pc…
That make it same as linux… so … ya… why those people like to boost things that not true…
Anyway, this is not an issue here.

Can i ask, arch based linux require often update, it will update kernel and all installed software.
It may ended up damaging the whole system or at least create problem when upgrade after a long time of neglecting of updating.

So, since fedora does not do rolling update/ upgrade as archbased linux, …that means whatever “updates” here is just app packages right? not low level like kernel…

So, if i don’t execute update / upgrade for whole 1 or 2 years… will that damage fedora or create problem the next time i do update/ upgrade ?

Thanks

Fedora is not a ‘rolling release’ system.
However it is on a regular release schedule with release versions about every 6 months and frequent updates within that version while it is active. Each version is only supported for about 13 months from the release date then becomes EOL.

Thus, if you fail to regularly update users will be unable to provide support due to the outdated software you would be running.

Will it break things? Maybe not.
Will it be subject to bugs and security issues? Possibly.
Will there be problems with updates if the system is 1-2 years out of date? Almost certainly.

YMMV and I have no idea why you would ever want to wait 1 - 2 years before performing updates.

I don’t have habit of updating things… just my habit.
When i use computer, i use it… i dislike update it while using, … and suddenly find out not able to open a certain tabs that i have opened already … firefox prompts “need to restart firefox” or sometime after update, realize the system go funny… and hence i have to abort what i am doing in order to reboot and have to worry after reboot, what else will be changed automatically.
I have experienced my whole DE theme being switched after update… i am like what ?! all my desktop background all changed without my consent. I even got shell being changed from bash to zsh after update… without my consent! not to mentioned got minor bug surfaced after update!

I don’t like to deal with those thing when i am concentrating to use computer and now have to struggle to learn and fix or even find way to overcome the issue… That feeling is horrible!

For what i am doing, there is nothing that is so secrecy that will jeopardize me…:stuck_out_tongue: at least no so far of my course of using a computer :stuck_out_tongue: touch wood!

So, as long as the computer is running as i have used to… i rather don’t constantly make changes = “update”. kind of like my car is running, i don’t constantly take out parts to do something with it… i know a lot of you guys totally disagree with me on this… but that’s me… :slight_smile:

LOL, the last time i use windows os… win7, i used 5 ~7 years without update or security patch… it still working fine… i totally have no knowledge of win10 at all… until i got a new laptop that come with win11… well, win7 is good enough, and win11 is as far as i feel, nothing diff… … just the auto update freezing while i use it piss me off.

I don’t know of any circumstances that would cause that, and have never heard of it happening before. It takes a users (or administrators) active change of settings for that to happen.

I knew a lot of people never heard such thing before… In fact there are a small amount of people heard / experienced such thing before, that i can promise. I don’t know why i am the small amount of people that dislike those experiences. I am not complaining… but i sure dont hope to go through that again.

I think it is due to the distro change the default theme and default video server… As for theme, if an user didn’t create a customized theme that they themselves like, when the distro changed the default theme; user who uses default theme of course will be changed… that’s logic.

As for video server, i have no idea if there is such thing as default video server config… however, when a distro migrated from x11 to wayland… for sure your video server will change after update… i think that is correct , right ?

There are program that is build upon x11 , when change to wayland , some program will perform weird or has certain bug… That’s what i have encountered…

I have also encountered changes from pulse audio to pipewire… and again, some program that i used causing some minor bug… all these affect the end user…

I can’t complain,… it is free open system… that’s just the way it is.
Hence i choose to use fedora… because i heard it is stable and not rolling release…

I have this issue. It seems to be intermittent and does not happen every time I use my computer.
I have determined it is probably NOT the clipboard.
This happens with random phrases I type, even if I did not copy the text. I have noticed it with phrases I have put into search engines as well as phrases I have selected (but not copied) in the K-write program.

I also have fedora 41 with kde plasma. I just updated kde today to 6.3; TBD on if the problem still occurs.

I dont know what’s the cause of the issue. My fedora is relative new installed, even when i reboot, the clipboard issue still occur randomly.
Annoying… i copy text, it won’t paste the thing i have copied…

I totally get what you’re saying. I usually skip one upgrade, with the one I’m on having support until the one after comes out.

I’m on F41, KDE and have not encountered this issue. But this is on X11 instead of the default Wayland, which in my opinion is being pushed too much. Install plasma-workspace-x11 and switch at the login screen if you’d like to try. Different issues on different systems were solved this way for me.

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