Hello All,
Since the last upgrade of my f40 kernel to 6.10.3, I have no more access to the “SMART Data & Self-Tests” and “Drives Settings” in the disk utilities (the topics are greyed). The disk temperature also disappeared !
My local drives are traditional rotating drives WD (EXT4) and SEAGATE (NTFS) connected to SATA ports
Motherboard : ASUSTEK B650M-E WIFI
OS : Fedora Linux 40 (Workstation Edition) x86_64
Kernel : 6.10.3-200.fc40.x86_64
On the other hand, these topics (SMART, drive settings and temperature) are still accessible with removable disks (unless this disk has been formatted in EXT4).
Hello @meganeura and welcome.
Mh. I don’t think that it is related to the kernel version. In my case such option is grayed out also on 6.9.7
Are you sure that in the past it was available?
This finding is interesting: Gnome-disk-utility: “smart data & self tests” option greyed out, and there are many other reports searching the web.
Hello @alciregi
Thanks for your quick reply ! Yes, I am pretty sure of it as I am looking at those data almost every day ; especially with those high temperatures
It was perfectly operational with my previous kernel 6.9.12-200
On first sight it appears there is no sensor for the harddisk detected on this kernel, the ones found are:
amdgpu → graphics card
asus → motherboard
k10temp → cpu
hidpp → battery
When you start up your computer, do you see a menu with a few options that automatically continues after a few seconds? That is the kernel selection where you can use the up/down arrows to select another kernel.
You won’t have to worry about messing anything up there, when you restart the computer it will automatically select the top entry again (the newest kernel, currently 6.10.3)
No, I don’t see any menu when I boot my computer (only “Fedora” at the very bottom of the screen and the rotating arrow). Is there any “short key” to make it appear ?
Yes usually you can force the menu to show up by either holding the shift key when the computer starts up, or alternatively by pressing the esc key.
It believe the key it responds to depends on the type of motherboard/bios that is in the computer, i am not super familiar with this myself since i always have the menu visible.
Or when you click on restart and the confirmation spoke appears, press the Alt keystroke on the keyboard. Restart become Boot options; during the reboot a menu should appear offering to boot with a previous kernel version.
(Sorry for the bad quality of the video).
Thank you very much Alessio and Olivier ! I didn’t know these tricks.
I just rebooted my computer to kernel 6.9.12-200 and yes, the SMART data and drive settings are now accessible:
Excellent, that means it’s a so called “regression” bug, something that used to work before but stopped working. Usually these types of bugs are caught quite quickly and the following kernel update(s) will bring a fix. In case it doesn’t get fixed quickly, we can file a bugreport for it so that developers can have a look at the problem.
Can you perhaps run that command once more to see what the name is of the harddrive temperature sensor that is now available?
That’s interesting, then there must be another kernel driver providing additional information from another location.
Well it’s not really important right now, the most important part is that you got it working again and you know the kernel number that has the working version. If a developer needs to look at it later they will know how to dig deeper for clues.
@meganeura in addition you could try smartmoontools from the command line in order to see if it is affected as well sudo dnf in smartmontools sudo smartctl -i /dev/sda sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda
I tried with smartmontools, but there is no difference with the results:
With kernel 6.9.12-200
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-6.9.12-200.fc40.x86_64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K2
Device Model: HGST HUS722T1TALA604
Serial Number: xxxx
LU WWN Device Id: xxxx
Firmware Version: RAGNWA09
User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528
ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Wed Aug 14 23:06:34 2024 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
With kernel 6.10.3-200
smartctl 7.4 2023-08-01 r5530 [x86_64-linux-6.10.3-200.fc40.x86_64] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-23, Bruce Allen, Christian Franke, www.smartmontools.org
=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Hitachi/HGST Ultrastar 7K2
Device Model: HGST HUS722T1TALA604
Serial Number: xxxx
LU WWN Device Id: xxxx
Firmware Version: RAGNWA09
User Capacity: 1,000,204,886,016 bytes [1.00 TB]
Sector Size: 512 bytes logical/physical
Rotation Rate: 7200 rpm
Form Factor: 3.5 inches
Device is: In smartctl database 7.3/5528
ATA Version is: ACS-3 T13/2161-D revision 5
SATA Version is: SATA 3.1, 6.0 Gb/s (current: 6.0 Gb/s)
Local Time is: Wed Aug 14 23:12:59 2024 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled
And yes, the temperature can be read from the SMART data.
