Could a FESCo group be created as well? IIUC it could be set up so that its members can be moderators of some topics (like future discussions of Change Proposals). A setup like that would make it more “palatable” for some of us, especially if FESCo members could be “arbiters” of some moderation decisions like what’s “off topic” and split off into a separate discussion.
Definitely! I’m on my way to dinner now but will set it up when I get a chance later.
Done! @decathorpe I’ve added you as group owner — you can adjust the basic config and add others.
We’ll figure out the thread moderation idea as part of Proposal to move Change discussion from devel-list: technical implementation discussion.
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Can we make the group membership public? (If it is, I don’t see an effect anywhere…)
Maybe it just took a bit until it was synced?
I see us all listed as members now: https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/g/fesco
Great, thanks! Sounds like a good plan.
I meant whether the membership could be visible on the user profile?
Like @mattdm and @dcantrell have “Fedora Council Member” always shown.
(Though I see that @kevin has “Stroopwafel (Cookie VII)”, so maybe it’s all just an accident?)
Go to your account preferences. You should have “fesco” as an option for “Primary Group”, and if so, that should set your Title correspondingly.
Alternately, if you have participated in the badges experiment, there will be a Title field, which will consist of both group names and Fedora Badges (which is where “Stroopwafel” comes from).
(I am not sure why there isn’t a title field if you don’t have badges… that seems confusing. I’ll bring that up upstream.)
There is a setting for the group which will make any new members automatically get that group as Primary, which should also set the title… I’m not sure how that works if a user has selected something else, though.
I set my primary group to fesco, but it doesn’t seem to have any effect.
I also notice that if I’m logged out, https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/g/fesco is 404, but Fedora council - Fedora Discussion works. So maybe fesco is still not public enough?
I set my primary group to
fesco, but it doesn’t seem to have any effect.
Ahhh, apparently “Default Title” needs to be filled out in the group settings. I did that, and it looks like it’s there now. (And it looks like group owners can’t change this, so a Discourse admin (e.g. me) will have to remember to do that when setting up new groups.
I’ve gone ahead and made you and all other FESCo members group owners, so you all should be able to see most of the other group settings.
I also notice that if I’m logged out, Fesco - Fedora Discussion is 404, but Fedora council - Fedora Discussion works. So maybe
fescois still not public enough?
Oops, I had visibility set to “only logged in users”. I made it public now.
yeah, I set it to that… seemed amusing.
On the one hand I can see how it would be nice to identify people by
group(s) they are in, but on the other it might cause some power
inbalance (kind of like being ‘opped’ on irc all the time). ie, some
people may be afraid to disagree or call out someone with a important
title. Just noting that…
kevin
Yep. There’s a balance to be struck between discoverability, i.e. being able to figure out who is who in a discussion, and creating a perception of power inbalance. But at least in discussions like the proposed Change discussions, there really is a power imbalance, since only some people get to vote. So I think it’s useful to show this information in those contexts.
It is!
Looks good to me now 
I also went ahead and added a “flair image” similar to the one for the council group. It’s not showing up for all group members, so that’s probably a per-account setting whether to show the badge or not.
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Yeah, there is no minimum flair…
