Best out-of-box working laptop for newbie to Fedora?

You should focus on components that are not detected, then those that are not working to see if any are important to you. SSD capacity and RAM are overkill for your use case, but rest of the system should be more than adequate (and may mean someone who needs the extra capacity will outbid you. The problem areas are more likely to be sound, bluetooth (if you have devices that need it), and wifi. One problem wth the LHDB is that the definition of “working” is vague as it depend on how the system is used. Also, there are often comments that suggest particular drivers that could save you time in the future.

Thanks. I think I misled you. This isn’t overspecced for me. I should have said I do have over 1TB of images and files I’d like to bring across, so the 1.5TB is definitely a good point for me. I’d rather 16GB of RAM than 8GB, my Macbook (i am moving from) had 16GB.

I don’t understand which ones to look at on LHWD. Search results for '3410' - this shows a whole list, no idea which one i should be looking at. I also have no idea how to find Fedora probes. I am using the old search as can’t use the newer one. Totally confused!

I think I will just take a gamble, shouldn’t struggle to sell if it doesn’t work, and I don’t mind one or two commands where needed to get bluetooth working etc. I dont use Wifi much, but do use bluetooth for mice etc.

thanks

https://linux-hardware.org/?probe=187aebc2cd

Fedora 37.

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Thanks very much.
In that case it does look a good pick. Everything working and detected, except an occasional trackpad issue. Looks good to me. Thanks

PS I saw a friend who had a Dell XPS and it’s the first time I’ve seen one in the flesh, very nice! Twice the price though, will see if I can find any more cash but if not this 3410 looks an ideal starter for me

Is there any way to find all laptop probes with Fedora? Takes a very long time to check every model, open a ton of new tabs, then close 99% of them as most are Mint, Ubuntu etc. Just wondered if there’s a better way?!

Just been asked to find a laptop for mother in law. But she’s got next to no money. I am considering this - Lenovo Yoga 510-14AST 14" (256 GB SSD, AMD A9 9410, 8GB RAM) Notebook | eBay
Hardware Database suggests it should work. Just wondering if Fedora will be too intensive for it, grateful for any thoughts on that





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DAMMIT!! I never saw that on the homepage, I think my entry was straight into probes page! THANK YOU!

There are many more LHDB reports for distros other than Fedora that can have important information. If you have a short list of models it is important to check all the probes for that model. There are sometimes comments with helpful hints for a particular device (3rd party drivers, kernel options, etc.). A shortcoming of LHDB is that it can’t provide all the “use case” details so some devices work for “easy” use cases but fail on others. Looking at more probes increases the chances that one will report issues that only affect some use cases/configurations.

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Thanks, good call I’m sure. Limited in what I can understand but I will certainly read!

I think this should be another/separate topic. And there You should include more info. Are You going to spend a lot of time with Your mother in law helping her with computer? Or maybe she is a retired sysadmin and if You give her computer she’ll help You?

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I mean AMD is supposed to work, Thinkpads are supposed to work. But my T495 is really disappointing.

If you can get a hold of it, a Clevo NV41 is great as it is supported by Coreboot (dasharo) ! Intel Xe Graphics, Intel CPU which has more power control options in Linux

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I just bought a second-hand Lenovo T470s (from an online store, not a private person) with i7-6600U, 12GB RAM, M.2 PCIe nvme SSD from Samsung, with a battery in great condition for € 129.

Interfaces are powered by Intel chipsets, so everything works out of the box in GNU Linux. Yes, it’s not the newest hardware but still very fast and good enough for what I do with the machine. And, at that price… can’t beat it! (the damn Raspb. Pi 5 is more expensive and much slower.)

To be honest, the 256GB disk too small, I will have to upgrade that.

But no doubt, I would recommend this machine for newbies. At that price point, it can even be your second machine that you learn Linux on.

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thanks, maybe as a spare I could do that but not as main machine. I could grab one of those for similar money, trouble is, I can NOT get used to that damn keyboard mushroom, messes up my typing/workflow. I am looking at Dell XPS 15 versus Lenovo Yoga 7 right now. Tricky decision!

This is mostly going to affect heat, and due to more processors&Threads/CPU by reduced architecture size (now 5nm??? I think) you’re going to see better throughput per cycle of CPU, thus better performance or similar performance for less energy.

Don’t get hung up on NVidia or not if you are buying used, generally speaking with hardware, if it has been around long enough you will have driver options available.

Any SSD is going to be faster than spinning rust, and either an m2 or nvme slot is going to have really good data throughput usually.

If you’re doing graphics intensive things you will want to make sure your graphics memory is adequate to the intended use. Like many things relating to performance, in this case more is normally better. Also, if it’s important for you then finding a model that was intended for that use would yield likely better results OOTB for you. You can see some compatible Linux hardware at https://linux-hardware.org/

I have a Yoga 710, triple booting with Win11 GhostSpectre, ZorinOS 16.3 Education. & Fedora 39 Everything works as it shoukd

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Lenovo laptops generally work great with Linux. I have one of the brand new M3 MacBook Pros, but I still prefer my ThinkPad X1 Carbon in many ways. The flexibility of running multiple OS’s. The materials and build quality. The OLED display. I know that Lenovo is a giant, soulless corporation just like Apple, but they’ve been able to create a connection between me and my ThinkPad the way Apple used to do when the PowerBook line existed. The M3 MacBook is powerful, but kind of sterile. The ThinkPad has a personality. No one can go wrong buying a ThinkPad.

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Plus, the ThinkPad keyboard is arguably the best keyboard ever made (and why I use a Lenovo TrackPoint II Bluetooth keyboard with every machine that isn’t a ThinkPad :slight_smile: ).

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i bought a :

Lenovo 2022 IdeaPad Gaming Laptop 15.6" FHD IPS 120Hz, AMD Ryzen 5 5600H (Beats i7-10850H), GeForce RTX 3050 Ti Graphics, 16GB DDR4 RAM, 512GB SSD, Backlit Keyboard, Wireless-AX, Windows 11

I know it say’s Windows 11, but I literally booted immediately into a LiveUSB of Fedora 37 and have not looked back. Everything works (including Nvidia GPU) It’s battery life is poor IMO, but I hardly notice since I am always plugged up.

Note that most laptops sold already have windows installed. That does not mean that they do not work well with linux, merely that this is the way the manufacturer created them.

I have used HP, Dell, Lenovo, and most recently Asus laptops with Fedora and all I have tried worked quite well with fedora and all had windows installed initially.