Why did you switch to Wayland, and when?

I would have to say I started experimenting with it in Fedora 25 which is roughly when I started using Fedora as a daily driver. I found it lacking at the time so I primarily stuck with Xorg until probably 28. At that point I used Wayland until I discovered something I used regularly was regularly broken and would run back to the comfort of Xorg. I want to say around Fedora 32 I went Wayland fulltime and have not looked back. Since Fedora 35 I have experienced zero issues, graphical glitches etc related to Wayland. Definitely production ready for my needs.

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As soon as Wayland was available, I switched. X was such a mess held together with chewing gum and bailer twine.

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Hmm, I was a long holdout on Xorg because I ran into things that just didn’t work on Wayland for me (at the time). Last time I tried it and switched back was some time ago, because the Nautilus file manager only supported drag and drop symbolic linking of files (using Shift+Ctrl drop) on X, not on Wayland – as I understand it this is because the Wayland drag and drop primitives only know “copy” and “move” :neutral_face:.

I made the switch for good (I think) recently when I upgraded to the F39 Beta, and it feels to be almost on par – except this one file managing thing and minor nits like that it unceremoniously throws you back to the login screen if GNOME Shell crashes instead of the fail whale screen you get with X, and that you can’t restart the Shell while retaining the session. These shouldn’t matter if the software were bug-free, but alas… :person_shrugging:

On a related note, when Twitter renamed themselves to X, people noted that their logo looked very similar to X.org’s logo. I couldn’t resist turning that into a meme that ended with the Wayland logo: https://x.com/the_unix_guru/status/1683479185770127360?s=20

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Well you said you use i3 so you don’t use Wayland. Sway solves that problem.

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Hyprland when I installed FC38, jumped from i3 pretty sharpish then.

How is using i3 a problem?

i3 uses Xorg which is de facto frozen since years and barely maintained. Nearly all development happens just for XWayland.

So if you like i3, try sway, if that works for you that would be good.

You said you use i3 and so you don’t use Wayland. Sway is i3 built for Wayland but you said you’re not interested. I was only suggesting to help you out.

Moving from i3 (Xorg) to sway (Wayland) was surprisingly painless for me (and I had a big i3 configuration). And even though i3 was very fast, I noticed an immediate speed improvement from sway on the same machine (not sure if that was due to sway or Wayland, but it was very welcome :slightly_smiling_face:).

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Sometime before emacs 29 was released (July 2023), I built a beta from source to get pgtk, the latest native compilation for elisp and treesitter. Launching it in X11 pops up an obnoxious dialog box about bugs with multiple emacs windows. So, I ditched X11 and Awesomewm and moved to Wayland and sway (currently using swayfx).

I actually had to use X11 once recently. Zoom is terrible in wayland. Luckily, I almost never use zoom.

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I dunno, five years or so? I primarily use openSUSE Tumbleweed, so nailing down dates isn’t like I can point to a release to sort that out

Luckily Firefox has Wayland support since forever, and Chromium seems now complete too. So you should be able to use the Webversion, there are extensions to skip the “open in app” dialog.