Support period of Operationg Systems like Windows etc

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10 LTSC has the longest support compared to non-Server editions of Windows until 2032; no TPM req :stuck_out_tongue:

I’m not sure if the terms vary between countries, but RHEL can be free with a free developer account.

Etcher is the only program I’ve found on Windows to consistently direct-write Linux images to USB. Rufus (dd mode) failed most of the time with Fedora images at the 4% checksum, and even Fedora’s own image writer had a few bad writes. Etcher’s been flawless :stuck_out_tongue:

2032??!! As per my information Microsoft has said that they will support Windows 10 upto 3 (three) consecutive years with a price and that price will double every consecutive year. I don’t know from where you got this info. :roll_eyes:
Link: Microsoft Extends Security Updates for Windows 10 Beyond 2025 (for a Price) | PCMag

I am not a developer and it will be cheating if I falsely make a developer account to get RHEL for free. Sorry, not my cup of tea.

Cannot agree on that because I have made a live USB stick of Fedora 40 Workstation with Rufus which I have used to install Fedora in a separate SSD and using Rufus I have made another live USB stick of Fedora-Budgie Spin which I have installed on VM in Windows. Both are running flawlessly. I love Rufus. :heart_eyes:

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Long-Term Servicing Channel (LTSC): Extended support end date: 2032-01-13 (IoT Enterprise only)

I think you are JOKING. Do you think everybody is using the ‘Enterprise’ edition??!! You may use a pirated copy of the ‘Enterprise’ edition, but not everybody and I am not talking about pirated copy here. General users like me, generally uses ‘HOME’ or ‘PRO’ edition. As I can remember, there is a section named ‘HUMOUR’ for throwing jokes. You can use that. :slightly_smiling_face:


This applicables to all normal persons like me. :slightly_smiling_face:

I never said pirate. It exists, which means it’s available to obtain legally. I pointed out that it simply exists as an option.

How far you’re willing to go to obtain it, what legal minefields you’re willing to stumble into, or other like-disclaimers is up to you :stuck_out_tongue: My machine is activated from MS servers as soon as it connects online, and I don’t know what more validation one can get than that :stuck_out_tongue:

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This is the IoT edition. That’s not for every day use, it’s for embedded devices.

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It works fine for every day use on non-embedded hardware for me :stuck_out_tongue:

All it is is Windows 10 without majority of Modern UI apps or Store (by-default). The IOT difference is semantics with licensing and update length support (it’s the same as the non-IOT LTSC edition on the wim and uses the same updates, but shorter extended support time).

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I think they were referring to the Windows 10 version that Espionage724 is using (IoT Enterprise LTS version) :wink:

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Do you know of any issues with compatibility?

I allowed me to split the part of the support duration of Windows into a new offtopic topic.

If you like to answer to @skywalker71, please do it here.

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I’ve seen some games (Diablo 4, Call of Duty) claim to require to want a higher Windows version than the latest LTSC was offering (prior to 21H2), but don’t recall anything current that checks 21H2 vs 23H2.

Everything I do has worked fine from LTSB (1507) and LTSC, and it’s the only edition of Windows I find worth entertaining :stuck_out_tongue:

Particularly with support time, it’s interesting that 21H2 on LTSC is supported years-longer than 23H2 on actual W10


But taking a regular W10/11 image and wiping Modern UI apps out is mostly comparable:

Get-AppxPackage -allusers | Remove-AppxPackage

And a quick MS Store restore:

WSReset -i&&TimeOut 20&&WSReset -i&&exit
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I just learned about there being 11 LTSC :stuck_out_tongue: What's new in Windows 11 Enterprise long-term servicing channel (LTSC) 2024 | Microsoft Learn

The rest of this is based on an image:

Support date looks to be 5 years for Enterprise (2029) and 10 years for IoT (2034).

  • Image also says TPM, Secure Boot, UEFI, and 4GB RAM are all required for Enterprise, but not IoT.

  • “Automatic Device Encryption” Enabled Enterprise, Disabled IoT

  • “Update Support” 5 Years Enterprise, 10 Years IoT

  • “Reserved Storage Feature” Enabled Enterprise, Disabled IoT

  • HWID Not Supported Enterprise, Supported IoT

  • “Uninstallable Edge outside of EEA” Yes Enterprise, No IoT

  • “2 Simultaneous RDP Sessions” No Enterprise, Yes IoT

  • There’s Enterprise, IoT Enterprise, and IoT Enterprise Subscription

  • Difference between IoT non-Subscription and Subscription is “that the subscription edition supports a subscription license.”

At least AlmaLinux and Rocky Linux have desktop/workstation live images for 9.4 and with options for GNOME, KDE, etc. Unless if you absolutely have to have 100% compatibility with RHEL, it’s the best option if you need a distro with LTS that uses rpm/yum/dnf.

LTSC isn’t meant to be a consumer product. It’s for things like POS kiosks and hospitals that can’t risk breakage from Windows updates. You can certainly find and install it on a consumer machine, but you’ll need to crack the activation or buy a questionably legal key from eBay (unless your machine activates IoTELTSC with HWID, like it did for me), which, for obvious reasons, I’m not endorsing or supporting, just stating. Don’t steal stuff, even if the company is bad. :stuck_out_tongue:

I think you’d have more of an issue with software (browsers, Steam, etc.) dropping support for Windows 10 before you got to that 2032 mark, to be honest.

IoT Enterprise LTSC works fine as a desktop, in my experience. (Or, at least as fine as a Windows desktop can get :stuck_out_tongue:) As for “piracy”, it’s not really. It’d be the same as downloading Windows 10 Pro from microsoft.com and using an activator on it.

The one caveat to using Windows IoTE LTSC I’ve found is that the Adobe suite is specifically unsupported on it. Which is a bummer, since that’s why I tried LTSC in the first place (my school pays for Adobe’s apps and I wanted to work on things outside of class without any fear of breakage when I came back into the lab)

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I don’t know from where you got this info. :roll_eyes:

I am not a developer and it will be cheating if I falsely make a developer account to get RHEL for free. Sorry, not my cup of tea.

Not cheating. Free (as in freedom) software is free software.

Cannot agree on that because I have made a live USB stick of Fedora 40 Workstation with Rufus

“Works for me” does not equal “works flawlessly”. Just because it works for you doesn’t mean it works for them, nor does it mean they’re lying. /nm

Creative Cloud blocks itself from installing on LTSC.

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I work for Microsoft but not on Windows. I can get LTSC for free from work but nowadays consumer Windows is trying to be a rolling release.

MS is just following what every other “hip” SaaS and consumer electronics giant wants to do, even when Windows NT was never designed for continuous updates like Silverblue or even a cable box.

If LTSC is more for appliances than consumer desktops? Adobe and Steam can say “no LTSC”. Even our work machines don’t run LTSC.

The big problem? Windows users came to expect stability in a 10-year cycle. People use Fedora or Arch for cutting edge. People use Debian or Alma/Rocky for stability. The Windows team wants to be the former but our users want it to be the latter.

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It also probably doesn’t help that Windows is full of legacy gunk for backwards compatibility reasons. At this point, the Windows team is in too deep to start over and re-architect everything. They have to keep the big corpos happy, and the big corpos need that compatibility.