Fedora Silverblue 41 random freezing

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hi, I recently switched to Fedora Silverblue, Gnome edition.
however it started to freeze out of nowhere and I don’t know what it could be.

System:
Kernel: 6.12.6-200.fc41.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
v: 2.43.1-5.fc41
Desktop: GNOME v: 47.2 tk: GTK v: 3.24.43 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
Distro: Fedora Linux 41.20241227.0 (Silverblue)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Micro-Star product: MS-7E26 v: 1.0
serial:
Mobo: Micro-Star model: PRO B650-S WIFI (MS-7E26) v: 1.0
serial: UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: 1.50
date: 11/22/2023
Battery:
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Keyboard K360
serial: charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging
Device-2: hidpp_battery_1 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse B330/M330/M331
serial: charge: 55% (should be ignored) status: discharging
CPU:
Info: 8-core model: AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen 4
rev: 2 cache: L1: 512 KiB L2: 8 MiB L3: 96 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 3603 min/max: 400/5050 boost: enabled cores: 1: 3603
2: 3603 3: 3603 4: 3603 5: 3603 6: 3603 7: 3603 8: 3603 9: 3603 10: 3603
11: 3603 12: 3603 13: 3603 14: 3603 15: 3603 16: 3603 bogomips: 134395
Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 21 [Radeon RX 6800/6800 XT
/ 6900 XT] vendor: XFX driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 pcie:
speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1 off: DP-2
empty: DP-3,HDMI-A-1,Writeback-1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:73bf
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Raphael vendor: Micro-Star MSI
driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: RDNA-2 pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:
active: none empty: DP-4, DP-5, DP-6, HDMI-A-2, Writeback-2
bus-ID: 11:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:164e temp: 46.0 C
Display: wayland server: Xwayland v: 24.1.4 compositor: gnome-shell
driver: gpu: amdgpu display-ID: 0
Monitor-1: DP-1 model: AOC 24G2W1G4 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 93
diag: 604mm (23.8")
Monitor-2: DP-2 model: Sony CPD-E430 res: 1280x1024 dpi: 90
diag: 450mm (17.7")
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.2.8 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 6800 (radeonsi navi21 LLVM
19.1.0 DRM 3.59 6.12.6-200.fc41.x86_64) device-ID: 1002:73bf
display-ID: :0.0
API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Audio:
Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Navi 21/23 HDMI/DP Audio
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16
bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:ab28
Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Rembrandt Radeon High
Definition Audio vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
pcie: speed: 16 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 11:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1640
Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio
vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 16 GT/s
lanes: 16 bus-ID: 11:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
API: ALSA v: k6.12.6-200.fc41.x86_64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8125 2.5GbE vendor: Micro-Star MSI driver: r8169
v: kernel pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 port: e000 bus-ID: 0d:00.0
chip-ID: 10ec:8125
IF: enp13s0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac:
Device-2: MEDIATEK MT7922 802.11ax PCI Express Wireless Network Adapter
driver: mt7921e v: kernel pcie: speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 0e:00.0
chip-ID: 14c3:0616
IF: wlp14s0 state: down mac:
Bluetooth:
Device-1: MediaTek Wireless_Device driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.1
speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-7:4 chip-ID: 0e8d:0616
Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: bt-v: 5.2
lmp-v: 11
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 2.29 TiB used: 1.63 TiB (71.3%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT1000BX500SSD1 size: 931.51 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial:
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Patriot model: P210 512GB size: 476.94 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial:
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Crucial model: CT1000BX500SSD1 size: 931.51 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial:
Partition:
ID-1: /boot size: 973.4 MiB used: 162 MiB (16.6%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sdb2
ID-2: /boot/efi size: 598.8 MiB used: 12.6 MiB (2.1%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/sdb1
ID-3: /var size: 475.35 GiB used: 61.22 GiB (12.9%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/sdb3
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 54.6 C mobo: 32.0 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
GPU: device: amdgpu temp: 38.0 C mem: 34.0 C fan: 0 device: amdgpu
temp: 47.0 C
Info:
Memory: total: 32 GiB note: est. available: 30.53 GiB used: 4.24 GiB (13.9%)
Processes: 558 Power: uptime: 4m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 256
target: graphical (5) default: graphical
Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm pm: flatpak pkgs: 84
Compilers: N/A Shell: Bash v: 5.2.32 running-in: gjs inxi: 3.3.36

Can someone please help me or give me some tips?

I tried to change the power plan to balanced, I turned off XMP ram profile, I turned off extensions and it still does it…

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Hi and welcome to :fedora: .

Is the issue reproducible with the previous deployment, or is it only the last one, with kernel 6.12.6, that has freezing issues?

Can you post the output of rpm-ostree status?

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Its been doing this since i installed it for the first time, it happens mostly while browsing.

Deployments:
● fedora:fedora/41/x86_64/silverblue
Version: 41.20241227.0 (2024-12-27T00:44:45Z)
BaseCommit: 7885761b3858106481e1e9c83458e68886eece5125bbd80f4265b40c70470bc4
GPGSignature: Valid signature by 466CF2D8B60BC3057AA9453ED0622462E99D6AD1
LayeredPackages: asciiquarium cmatrix fastfetch gnome-tweaks htop inxi

fedora:fedora/41/x86_64/silverblue
Version: 41.20241227.0 (2024-12-27T00:44:45Z)
BaseCommit: 7885761b3858106481e1e9c83458e68886eece5125bbd80f4265b40c70470bc4
GPGSignature: Valid signature by 466CF2D8B60BC3057AA9453ED0622462E99D6AD1
LayeredPackages: asciiquarium cmatrix fastfetch gnome-tweaks htop

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When it freezes does it eventually come back or do you have to reboot your system? What did you use before Fedora Silverblue which didn’t have a freezing issue? Also you might be able to find something useful in GNOME Logs after a freeze.

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Before Fedora ive been using Arch and before that Mint.
Mint doesnt have these problems, but Arch got the same hickups like Fedora now.
It worked great 5 months, but then it started doing these freezes, so i switched to Fedora in hope it will be fine.
Whole GUI is not responding, when im playing a videos online, the sound continues, i can pause the video via keyboard shortcut, but nothing else is happening, i must hard reset the PC.
Where can i find GNOME Logs please, thanks.

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Which indicates that this is an issue in a current software update. Kernel, mesa, whatever

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I was thinking of the same thing.

@connla , when did you install Siverblue 41? I wonder if the issue came with the 6.12 kernels. Being on an atomic desktop, you could roll back to a previous deployment, other than the one still on your system. I couldn’t tell though which is the last server-side image containing the 6.11 kernels.

Other than that, you could have a look at some other topics here in the forums, discussing about issues noticed in recent months with AMD GPUs (not related to atomic desktops in particular).

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So today i updated and so far, no freezing.
Im not sure if its fixed or not tho, ive browsing internet, multitasking and no freeze at all…

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Nope, still not fixed :frowning:

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Press the super key (often the Windows logo for converted laptops) and just type the word “logs” without the quotation marks. It should be the only application which comes up unless you installed another logging application.

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You can filter by time up top and by message type on the left side. There may be a clue as to why there is a crash.

What browser are you using? Is it always while playing video or a specific task, or random?

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I have been having similar issues with Fedora silverblue, and I think this issue may be the cause in my case, but perhaps not the same for user Bo Bo.

  • amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: SECUREDISPLAY: query securedisplay TA failed. ret 0x0
  • amdgpu 0000:03:00.0: amdgpu: Secure display: Generic Failure.

I am not computer savvy, but I figured I mine as well post this here, in case it helps others, or with this specific case.

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@jjytomatoxjj open up GNOME Logs and search for ‘firmware’. Let us know if there are any logs regarding missing firmware. I found your SECUREDISPLAY log elsewhere and it was resolved by manually copying in the missing firmware to /lib/firmware/amdgpu/

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I looked up firmware, and the only thing I found that might be similar was this:

  • ACPI: [Firmware Bug]: BIOS _OSI(Linux) query ignored

BTW, I updated to Fedora Linux 41.20241227.0 (Silverblue) / with kernel: Linux 6.12.6-200.fc41.x86_64, and the crashes have stopped so far, and I will report back whether or not it continues into the future

So I am hoping that the update fixed the error somehow

I also noticed the previous error could happen without the brave browser open, but seemed more likely to crash if I left a video running on Brave

I have had past problems with my computer (running poorly for video applications on other Linux distros) where the problem was solved by updating my graphics software with the official AMDGPU stack on AMD’s website.

I thought I heard that the mesa package/driver was there to replace the amdgpu with open source drivers? And that the mesa drivers were better for most use cases?
Not sure on the validity or history on that, I am trying to remember information offhand.