Fedora Silverblue 40 Automatic updates not happening or not notifications

past 2 days have been working again on daily workflow on Fedora Silcverblue and i have seen that automatic updates not actually working or no noitifications that there is even updates.

by this i have to manually open gnome software and there i see notification where it showsa system updates etc available and then i actually need to click Download them manually not automated as it was supposed to be and after restart/shutdown your system is always updated so no need to worry those

Hello @anon91881872 ,
From the Silverblue Documentation …

you will be automatically notified when an update is available. The standard behavior is to automatically download the update (this can be changed from the update preferences in Software).

Just asking, but did you change the preferences in Gnome Software?

no changes, fresh installation no popup notifications for updates or automatic downloads need to manually click and download and update/restart will need to monitor more on this.
running now third day on this setup

Personally, when I ran Silverblue, I always did them manually. But it fit well for my use, I’m thinking seriously of going back to it.

i have habit too manually to check updates each morning, but for now i actually just trying to let the automation do the work since it is meant to do that and i can just start working and downloads are on background and installed/applied when i shutdown or restart

This is a tad off topic, so sorry in advance, but I think that with the advent of the changes to dnf and the addition of bootc, that we are going to see a methodology change on how the atomicallity(is that a word?) is handled in Silverblue et al. BTW, this will even have a similar affect on traditional workstation, like potential for ro system root, atomic updates using OCI container images, real rollback capability, exciting :exclamation:

oh okey so basically the automated updates thingy is going away due changes of dnf and atomic systems well that might explain the behavior already, but it would be awesome to have option still to automate it especially on atomic since it applies updates on next restart/start.

might need to move the topic on project talk or off topic since you basically answered the question already and thank you for that

No I was meaning the tools to do what Silverblue currently does may be changing to be more inline (ie the same tools) with what Workstation is using, dnf being the main one, with the addition of bootc which can boot OCI images.

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oh that sounds exciting and interesting and fun will be waiting for more updates on the changes and wait to test them in action

You should be able to start testing with F41. The base image for Fedora Atomic will have both dnf5 and bootc installed as default. Dnf5 can do things like install packages in overlay on ostree based systems now apparently (or is in the works for f41) but it will be set to defer to rpm-ostree during the transition phase. I think the use of a different package manager for the Atomic versions of Fedora has possibly hurt them a bit. You know, muscle memory (of using dnf) and all.

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yeah i will setup VM tomorrow not today anymore 3 VM already done for daily workflow
thanks for the answers will keep things in monitoring and testing the F41 Silverblue on VM and might dedicate my testing laptop on that one too

I am also no longer getting automatic updates, so something might be changed or broken? Gnome software shows the update but does not stage it. Before it would stage an update every day.

I think this started with the update to gnome-software 46.2. This is just a wild guess, but this pull request might be related? I suspect that after that pull request gnome software is staging updates once a week now instead of every time it checks for updates.

I would like to mention that I just yesterday installed Silverblue onto a Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E530, and it did perform an automatic update. This is a fresh F40 Silverblue install.

I suspect it still does updates but less frequently. Did the new install already have gnome software 46.2 when it automatically installed the update?

Before seeing the update in gnome software meant that it was layered, currently it gets layered when clicking on the download button. Now it probably does update once every two weeks like the other editions?

That was how it was after install.

When I had rebooted after the first update, I refreshed the update state in Gnome Software, and that presented an option to download as well as some flatpak updates.

Silverblue and the other atomic Fedora’s suffer from the current build setup for the releases, they follow the official release, with a lag. My understanding is that is being worked on to have the images created at the same time for all. So I was just accustomed to waiting for the updates to follow in brief for Silverblue, when I was using it only.