I upgraded from f38 yesterday and everything seemed to go well. This morning I tried to start up blender and it kept crashing immediately. I saw some people had success switching from Wayland to x11 but that hasn’t worked. Does anyone know how to figure out why I can’t get this to run?
Did you install blender from rpm or flatpak? Since rpm and your version seems old latest flatpak and blender version is 4.1.1 or was it already 4.1.2
From rpm. I upgraded through dnf and this is the version that’s in the repo. Should I be using flatpak? I’ll give that a shot and report back.
I personally use the Flatpak, am currently on both AMD & Nvidia Graphics as well. The Flatpak is the latest and is built almost very closely to the latest build of Blender.
You have also not stated what your hardware is? Are you on Nvidia or AMD Graphics
Could you post the results of inxi -FGxx
Do you have any logs? Are you on Fedora 39 Workstation ?
Tried to install with flatpak, same crash. ABRT gives the same “blender killed by SIGSEGV” for both.
inxi -FGxx gives me:
System:
Host: fedora Kernel: 6.8.6-200.fc39.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
compiler: gcc v: 2.40-14.fc39
Desktop: GNOME v: 45.5 tk: GTK v: 3.24.41 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
Distro: Fedora Linux 39 (Workstation Edition)
Machine:
Type: Desktop System: Dell product: Precision T1650 v: 01
serial: Chassis: type: 6 serial:
Mobo: Dell model: 0X9M3X v: A03 serial:
part-nu: Precision T1650 BIOS: Dell v: A28 date: 06/28/2018
CPU:
Info: quad core model: Intel Xeon E3-1225 V2 bits: 64 type: MCP
arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 256 KiB L2: 1024 KiB L3: 8 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1598 high: 1600 min/max: 1600/3600 cores: 1: 1600
2: 1600 3: 1596 4: 1596 bogomips: 25540
Flags: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Dell
driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 ports: active: DP-2,HDMI-A-1
empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-2,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:016a
Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 23.2.4
compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
dri: crocus gpu: i915 display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1920x2160 s-dpi: 96
Monitor-1: DP-2 pos: primary,top model: HP E221 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 98
diag: 576mm (22.7")
Monitor-2: HDMI-A-1 mapped: HDMI-1 pos: bottom model: PD1161
res: 1920x1080 dpi: 190 diag: 294mm (11.6")
API: OpenGL v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 23.3.6 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.0
direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics P4000 (IVB GT2)
device-ID: 8086:016a
API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Dell
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20
API: ALSA v: k6.8.6-200.fc39.x86_64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.4 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Dell driver: e1000e
v: kernel port: f080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502
IF: eno1 state: down mac: 90:b1:1c:8b:6b:49
Device-2: Linksys AE1200 802.11bgn Wireless Adapter [Broadcom BCM43235]
driver: brcmfmac type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 4-1.2:6
chip-ID: 13b1:0039
IF: wlan0 state: up mac: 20:aa:4b:87:7e:2a
RAID:
Hardware-1: Intel SATA Controller [RAID mode] driver: ahci v: 3.0
bus-ID: 00:1f.2 chip-ID: 8086:2822
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 3.94 TiB used: 665.41 GiB (16.5%)
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD3000HLFS-60G6U2
size: 279.46 GiB speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: WD-WXR1E30UYE89
ID-2: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZAZ-00SF3B0
size: 3.64 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: WD-WX72D22PTZFX
ID-3: /dev/sdc vendor: Generic model: Flash Disk size: 29.3 GiB type: USB
rev: 2.0 spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 serial: 5BE40FCC
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 249.39 GiB used: 24.62 GiB (9.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/dm-1
mapped: luks-80a8fc00-58e3-4944-85cf-1d536b4b575f
ID-2: /boot size: 973.4 MiB used: 319.1 MiB (32.8%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/sda1
ID-3: /home size: 3.58 TiB used: 634.74 GiB (17.3%) fs: ext4
dev: /dev/dm-2 mapped: luks-b591025d-bea7-4f22-bad7-6b5e8ecd9229
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: partition size: 23.98 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
dev: /dev/dm-0 mapped: luks-96fbb3ae-a1ff-4ba7-a9b6-bf34eca11381
ID-2: swap-2 type: zram size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 27.0 C mobo: 18.0 C
Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 1024 mobo: 1091
Info:
Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31.23 GiB used: 4.08 GiB (13.1%)
Processes: 363 Power: uptime: 22m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 254
target: graphical (5) default: graphical
Packages: pm: flatpak pkgs: 10 Compilers: gcc: 13.2.1 Shell: Bash
v: 5.2.26 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.33
/tmp/blender.crash.txt has this to say:
Blender 4.0.2, Commit date: 1970-01-01 00:00, Hash unknown
backtrace
/usr/bin/blender(+0xef5c9c) [0x55e577789c9c]
/usr/bin/blender(+0x9549eb) [0x55e5771e89eb]
/lib64/libc.so.6(+0x3e9a0) [0x7f6fa065c9a0]
/usr/bin/blender(+0xf62ae0) [0x55e5777f6ae0]
/usr/bin/blender(+0xf2e98d) [0x55e5777c298d]
/usr/bin/blender(+0xf8446d) [0x55e57781846d]
/usr/bin/blender(+0xf8600e) [0x55e57781a00e]
/usr/bin/blender(+0x8fd4fd) [0x55e5771914fd]
/lib64/libc.so.6(+0x2814a) [0x7f6fa064614a]
/lib64/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0x8b) [0x7f6fa064620b]
/usr/bin/blender(+0x94afe5) [0x55e5771defe5]
Also, yes, I’m on Fedora 39 Workstation.
Ok, thanks for this. Now I need to know what version of Blender you are coming from because I have a bad case of Deja Vu . . . Also, as an aside Do you have an AMD or Nvidia discrete GPU that might not be loaded ?
If you do not have a discrete GPU. . . and you could be coming from Blender < 3.8.x or older we could have a bigger problem on hand. Fixable, but bigger.
I have no gpu beyond whatever’s built into the mobo, and I believe the last version of blender on f38 was something like 3.6ish?
No problem
That’s the problem. . . If I recall correctly, Blender 3.8.x is the last version that supports the Intel < Iris GPU. There is a flatpak manifest to build that will get you the build 3.8.6, but if you must, you should uninstall all Blender builds right now and install the .rpm for 3.X.X .
I will do some leg work for you here but I am almost certain you can’t move up without a GPU. . .
thanks! I’ll try to get the older version installed now and I guess order a gpu?
Give me a moment here (about 15mins) so i can get you some more information. Also, do not uninstall things just yet.
I see you are using Xorg, Can you log out and run on the standard Gnome install ? That is Wayland.
@useablename46 Here is a link from the Blender website on the Blender 4.0 release note :
Graphics Cards¶
- The minimum required OpenGL version has been increased to 4.3 for Linux and Windows. (3478093183)
- On macOS only Metal is supported now, and the OpenGL backend has been removed. A GPU with Metal 2.2 support is required. Intel Macs without an AMD GPU require a Skylake processor or higher. (cdb8a8929c)
- Due to driver issues, support for Intel HD4000 series GPUs has been dropped.
https://developer.blender.org/docs/release_notes/4.0/
Looking at your hardware :
Intel Xeon E3-1225 V2
Intel Xeon E3-1200 v2/3rd Gen Core processor Graphics vendor: Dell
driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 ports: active: DP-2,HDMI-A-1
empty: DP-1,HDMI-A-2,VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:016a
An external GPU wouldn’t be much help either. This is 12yr old hardware, but if you still need Blender, there are options to build the Flatpak manifest for version 3.8.6 ( the last supported ) and stay on that for as long as you need. as for the .rpm, I would need to look into how to get a previous version of that and build it for your current configuration.
Blender Flatpak Manifest for Blender 3.6.5 ( Last release that supports Intel HD Graphics )
This post is to highlight that most Intel Graphics users will be stuck on Blender 3.6.x until they update their Hardware. If anyone on the older Hardware needs hel;p, please open a new thread for assistance on building the flatpak.