So how do we get on Element X?

Element recently announced that their Element X suite, everything you need to get the awesome new performance they’ve been working on, is available now.

I am super unfamiliar with how this works, but are we looking at making this upgrade soon? If there are speed bumps and roadblocks it is what it is, but otherwise I would like for us to start switching over. Our Element and Matrix usage is serviceable, but I think many in the community would like to see it become a smoother experience.

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So, our matrix servers are currently hosted by EMS in their cloud.

See:

“Unfortunately, you will not get sliding sync support right now. We are
hoping to be able to offer sliding sync in the early part of 2024.”

But thats just part of “element X” I think.

Hopefully there will be some news soon on upgrades…

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Element X is still not supported on home servers like the one used by Fedora.

Hosts using delegated authentication/SSO including Element One users

A pre-requisite of support for Element X is adding support for the Matrix Authentication Service (MAS) to Element Matrix Services (EMS).

Whilst significant progress has been made in developing MAS work to add support for it to EMS is not due until 2025 - we’d advise checking the Element Blog for the latest updates where we’ll announce its support in the future.

So it might happen over the course of the year, but I couldn’t find anything more specific.

There is an article on the Element blog mentioned above, which informs about them recently introducing this authentication service to the matrix.org server: MAS migration unleashes Element X on Matrix.org. As far as I can understand, the relevant part for Fedora is this:

What does this mean for Element’s customers?

Element’s customers do not use the free Matrix.org public server, so this blog post is not applicable to them. Customers that use the classic Element app should already be in touch with us to discuss how best to migrate to Element X.

Should someone contact EMS or are they expected to migrate the home server on their own pace without any particular action by people from Fedora?

I’ve asked about this… there’s one issue on our side (sorting out our custom user agreement) and then they are looking to move things hopefully in june or early july.

So, sorry for the delay here…

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Now that Matrix.org is in the middle of a multi-hour database restore - I wonder if we heard back from EMS as to when we can start using Element X with the Fedora home server?

The Matrix and Element blogs are very forward looking, but it seems there is less publicly available information for those who rely on EMS instances sadly.

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We are waiting until they migrate our instance to the new MAS (matrix
authentication server) which is a prereq for element x support.

I’ve asked for an update on that and will let you know what I find out.

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There is a new blog post by the Element team:

They don’t mention anything about customers on the EMS cloud. As far as I understand, they should perform the migration for Fedora.

@kevin, do you happen to have any updates?

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I don’t… but I can ask for one. :slight_smile: Will go do that now and get back to you when I hear anything…

And I note that the download for “linux” from their announcement is only for the apt package manager implying that Fedora (again) is out of luck ??

Just to circle back on this thread… we have a outage scheduled on the 10th and hopefully after that element-x will work.

Sorry it’s taken so long to get there…

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Thank you for sticking with this! +100

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This answer should be marked as solution. I have tested it and Element X now works with the fedora.im Matrix homeserver! :partying_face: :tada: :tada:

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I don’t see an option to that here, maybe because we are in Project Discussion? But I gave you a :tada: emoji. :grin:

Woohooooooo! :partying_face: :fireworks: :mirror_ball: Party time! :smiling_face_with_sunglasses:

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Yeah, thats only in the ask section I think…

but glad it’s working! Thanks for confirming.

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