Lenovo Yoga 7 (16ARP8)
F39 Workstation
I am running Thunderbird but due to some issues I want to try Betterbird. The developer pointed me to some instructions for installing BB but it seemed a bit over my skill level. Wondered if anyone could help me install it please?
Also wondering if I will need to set up accounts again.
(I have a ton of local folders which took weeks to import from Mac Mail and organise nicely. Hoping that will stay in situ from TB to BB)
The easiest way to install Betterbird is to install it through flatpak. If you move your Thunderbird configuration folder over to the corresponding config folder of the flatpak version (under ~/.var/app), then all settings and existing mail will be seamlessly transitioned.
Thanks. I checked and I have installed it as a flatpakâŚ
Do you mean flathub?
I havenât tried betterbird yet, but remembered this thread so thought I would askâŚ
I am using Thunderbird. God it can be frustrating at times. One example below, wondering if BB will cure this problemâŚ
I get a lot of images from people, inline in emails. I send quite a few too but this is just with regard to receiving/viewing emails from people who included images.
They are HUUUUUUGE! I canât see any setting or option to reduce the size. Is TB really not smart enough to make them fit inside the damn viewing pane? They go WAY off the screen, either in sidepanel view or when email is opened full screen in its own window. I canât see any cure, I asked on Mozilla and the only (somewhat terse) response I got was to use a plugin. As a last resort, maybe Iâd have to, but Iâd really not like to install ANY extensions (none currently and no plans to) just to get what seems to me to be very basic usability features!
So, does BetterBird display images inline in a way that makes them viewable, without scrolling to the right about 3.5 MILES?! 
I am using TB 115.10.1 (64 bit) on Fedora Workstation 39.
I have just taken snapshot of my screen and sent it via email to myself.
The image is displayed inline and correctly fits in the message area, I can click on it to zoom in and out.
I havenât set any option, it looks like the default behavior.
I suggest this test:
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I havenât tested all the possible image formats, canât say if Thunderbird resizes all of them.
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In case you want to âviewâ inline images as separate attachments you can instruct Thunderbird to view the message body as âplain textâ instead of HTML. The options should be retained for all the messages until you set it back from âplain textâ to HTML.
Added betterbird, flatpak, thunderbird and removed lenovo
Thanks very much.
I have to say, I am using the very same version, but many images are way oversized (original size, no auto sizing going on, which I was used to in Mac Mail and feels horrible without it!)
That said, I got two emails today with images and those magically WERE resized and fit nicely in the viewing area! Maybe itâs a glitch thatâs gone! I will do some testing as per your suggestion, thanks again
You could also try another move.
Click with the right button on the ârootâ of any mail box you have and select âcompactâ.
It is a feature that should somehow âconsolidateâ the mailbox and probably fix some issues.
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There could be another option and I cannot verify.
Since messages can come in HTML maybe they could contain some tag that forces the image size within the âHTML pageâ.
This could be the case when you arenât receiving a simple email with attached images but some sort of pre-formatted messages. I donât think Thunderbird can strip HTML tags out to resize the images in the message area.
Another reason to disable the HTML view and use the âplain textâ only.
Betterbird sounds pretty cool, but that is a lot of trust to be putting into an email client. As nice as their features table makes it sound better than Thunderbird, I canât say TB was ever annoying enough for me to want to change how it works 
What do you mean by âa lot of trust to be putting into an email clientâ?
In my native language there is a saying that translates in âwhen you leave the old way for the new one, you know what you lose but you donât know what you gainâ.
When you replace a software with another ideally you want to improve then you should look for somebody with at least the same reputation and capability.
Please note that this is what has plagued Windows since the very beginning. Users are encouraged to go looking for âutilitiesâ and install them, they are even pre-installed on new computers by vendors. The utilities are almost always bad and they degrade Windows to the point you need to reinstall everything. Then the cycle repeats. Utilities to fix utilities, utilities to protect against utilities and so on. Plus the obvious consequence that installing software from untrusted sources brings any sort of virus and such.
I would not change Thunderbird with âmr Nobodyâ mail client, with all the due respect.
Itâs a 3rd-party fork of Mozilla Thunderbird. Thunderbird has a large user-base, and a lot of eyes on it to verify it isnât doing anything nefarious, along with keeping up-to-date with security concerns.
Who exactly is looking at Betterbird? Whoâs to say they havenât backdoorâd it? Maybe one of their âbetterâ tweaks actually creates a security hole that Thunderbird was avoiding for a reason? And how can they keep up with security advisories with a smaller team and less-eyes?
And overall, Betterbird just implements optional features onto Thunderbird. TB is plenty-usable without a fork trying to bully its version of whatâs better. I never even heard of Betterbird until this thread
I use email for 2FAs and banking, and wouldnât dare use a non-mainstream Mail client. I use Thunderbird on Windows, Evolution on Linux/GNOME, K9 on Android, and quick trips with webmail through Firefox; all mainstream stuff and pretty good.
Ah I see, good saying! I fully agree with generally. In this case, whilst âone manâ can never be THEORETICALLY as reliable as a big company, in practice thatâs often very much the case in my experience. In this case, if you do some research into who he is, and why he produced BetterBird, itâs quite interesting, and goes a long way to helping me suspect I could trust him far more than Thunderbird, but of course thatâs just MY opinion. YMMV
This is a bit illogical since Betterbird uses Thunderbird code.
You must trust Thunderbird first THEN you must trust the author(s) of Betterbird as well.
It is TWO levels of trust instead of one.
My experience with IT suggests to reduce complexity to the minumum, Espionage724 made a very good point about using Thunderbird across all platforms and systems. That is very true and it is also what I have been doing since ever. It is two folds, you donât have to import-export mail from-to different formats and you donât have to deal with all the issues of different mail clients, just one.
I tried both Evolution and Kmail because they should be the mail clients of Gnome and KDE. It is not worth it, Thunderbird is good enough and, like I said, I just copy the profile and I am ready to go.