Fedora retina like high resolution too small

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I was in the middle of writing this and it seems to be fix - leaving it here to share in case
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I have been using fedora cinnamon with external monitors. I have a big central monitor that if I’m on 3840x2160 it is beautiful resolution, but just too small I cannot read my code in sublime or read anything really.

IF I set 3840x2160 and use user interface scale to 200%, it would actually look good for my primary monitor, but then my other monitors are super huge and not workable.

I have tried playing with fractional scaling, but it wouldn’t work and my monitors would get cut off.

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I did fractional scaling again while writing this, it my laptop crashed, I waited a bit to see if recovery, had to hard boot it. When it booted back up, it kept my fractional scaling to 125% on primary monitor and it works! My primary is 125% and the other are at 100% and everything looks great.
So I guess, if you have this problem and changing fractional to 125% looks bad, maybe reboot with these settings and it might work?
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I also got too excited on this as there is a noticeable delay on all monitors now, and I can hear the processor working its ass off. I will see if I can still work with this…

Have you tried KDE? It uses Wayland and fractional scaling is “true” here like Windows. It automatically sets my display to 125% scaling like Windows. You can also try increasing size of font in Cinnamon, which works well and doesn’t require fractional scaling

@ismatovsanjarbek
Thanks for the reply. I do not believe I have tired KDE. When I install fedora I think I chose, it came with GNOME, GNOME classic, Cinnamon and Cinnamon (wayland) experimental.

I enjoy more cinnamon than GNOME, and spent time setting up my env. I’ve seen comment about KDE and regret not having this installed. I do not want to ruin my setup environment so I hesitate on doing another desktop installation.

I’d love to have it installed, however.
I have found this guide

Do you recommend one for a solid install? Do you believe installing this could cause any issues with my cinnamon setup?

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/KDE

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-install-kde-plasma-desktop-on-fedora-linux

First backup root and home partitions via timeshift (if you use ext4) or snapper (if you use btrfs). Then you can try it safely. Actually it’s not unsafe, only things may be affected are icon theme, application theme and font size. You cane easily bring them back. But for safety, I recommend backip up everything. For me (1920x1080), KDE gives the best scaling in linux. If you hesitate to switch, try to increase font scaling to bigger, it helps to scale the system without using fractional scaling. When you understand the power of KDE for productivity, you will never replace it with others.
Here is how chrome browser (wayland) look in KDE (wayland) with 125% fractional scaling:

@ismatovsanjarbek
So I had to drop my resolution as after about 1 hour the laptop was choppy and lagging. So if KDE this is not a problem and provide that beautiful resolution I think I will give it a try on my downtime. I heard KDE has a lot more settings and system customization anyways.

thanks for the screenshot

What I liked about cinnamon is that it has a more Windows Desktop UI than the Apple type Desktop I see in your pic. But I think I saw somewhere that KDE can be setup that way. I have a test laptop I think Ill run on it first. I appriciate the comments.

I actually customized my KDE (Breeze black color scheme, papirus icon theme, centered taskbar), KDE is default looks like Windows 10. You can tweak it to appear like anything. It is like you desktop is IDE, you build your desktop.

@ismatovsanjarbek
I got it installed. It was effortless. It is beautiful and auto adjusted my screens no problem. My big screen is at 175%. lol It didnt even ask and just made the changes.

with cinnamon, if I rebooted with my displays attached, I would get a dark screen unless I opened my laptop lid. There seems to be no problems at all anymore.

Thanks for the suggestion. I know KDE was advanced in many settings I just didn’t push myself. But this is nice, and all my apps are working no problem, minus a few profiles I’ll have to rebuild a bit.

Sublime text had some issues for scaling, it didn’t pickup the settings from the system and needed "ui_scale": 2.0, in the user presences

Anyway, cheers and thanks for the push!

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I have really appreciated the various discussions on hidpi difficulties. I have been using 1920x1080 on laptops and monitors just fine. So when contemplating a 4k monitor I was concerned about legibility as my sight is not what it once was. My solution was to purchase a 4k monitor with the same dpi as the acceptible 1920x1080 screens I have been satified with. So now I use a 42" 4k monitor.

Also, adjusting font size rather than using scaling has been more successful for me. There are a lot of adjustments to make when just increasing font sizes though. Some I have never figured out.

On x11, adjusting font size is enough, but on wayland, you need fraction scaling. If you want to use wayland in the future, I recommend KDE, it has the best scaling

Scaling is a different solution than selecting larger fonts.

I have been using wayland for quite a few years. Adjusting fonts instead of scaling is workable in wayland. It is my preferred mechanism for making text more legible as screen real estate is valuable.

More quality varibable size fonts are available on linux than ever before. So far I have been able to find where to make a settings change to use a larger font for any application I had enough interest in changing. Some I have not had enough interest in to track it down.

I mean there are some apps that don’t apply font scaling like google chrome. So fractional scaling is needed for this

Browsers have their own fractional scaling settings, so you don’t need systemwide scaling for those.

No, Chrome or chromium browsers cannot do that if you did not enable fractional scaling

I’m not using desktop fractional scaling and Chromium gives me these scaling options:

This only scales the web page, not the UI. as a result, UI looks ugly and unclear