Hi… Not taken the leap into Fedora yet, does anyone know if I can install Fedora Jam then install XFCE?
Looking at the Fedora website, another option seems to be installing Fedora XFCE, then adding all the audio stuff to it that is included in Jam, would that achieve the same result or will I have to then start configuring rt kernels, pipewire etc?
Welcome to the forums Steve.
Installing XFCE shouldn’t be a problem from the Jam installation. The other way around could be more work as you said, so starting with Jam and only adding XFCE might be the easiest approach.
Thanks Olivier, have downloaded everything and made a live usb of Fedora Jam, your advice was all I was waiting for!!
[edit] Better instructions further in the thread:
That’s news to me, where is that stated?
Thanks again Oliver, after all these years of Ubuntu and then Debian, anything other than ‘apt’ is a change for me… I will start with your suggestion and hopefully avoid problems altogether… Going to dive into the live edition for a while, see how I get on…
If you compare the group install options between dnf4 and 5, there are currently still some packages missing:
$ dnf4 group list | grep -i desktop
Xfce Desktop
Phosh Desktop
LXDE Desktop
LXQt Desktop
Cinnamon Desktop
MATE Desktop
Sugar Desktop Environment
Deepin Desktop
Budgie Desktop
COSMIC Desktop
Basic Desktop
i3 desktop
Miracle WM Desktop Environment
Sway Desktop
Desktop accessibility
GNOME Desktop Environment
Budgie Desktop Applications
COSMIC Desktop
COSMIC Desktop Supplementary Applications
KDE (K Desktop Environment)
$ dnf5 group list | grep -i desktop
budgie-desktop Budgie
budgie-desktop-apps Budgie Desktop Applications
cosmic-desktop COSMIC Desktop
cosmic-desktop-apps COSMIC Desktop Supplementary Applications
desktop-accessibility Desktop accessibility
kde-desktop KDE
First impressions… very nice… Not a fan of KDE but am familiar enough with it to know my way around, my 2 monitors are the wrong way around but figure installing my nvidia drivers will sort that out…
First time on any version of Linux that my hdmi port on my graphics card is not set as the default soundcard, and pipewire is running sweetly out of the box…
Going to have a bit of a play with some of the audio toys (nice collection) while in live mode but so far I am inclined to install it and give it a full go…
Any advice for installing nvidia drivers? Usually in debian there is a nvidia installer, cant see one here or in the Discover software repo…
Instead use the dnf5 commands
dnf group list then notice that the first column (ID) is all in lower case and has no spaces while the second column (Name) is in the older dnf4 format with capitalization and spaces.
Now do the install with dnf install @<group ID> and it will work.
If you use dnf4 to do the installations then the package shows “unknown” for the repo it originated from when listed with dnf5
XFCE doesn’t seem to appear in the DNF5 group list, how can the right ID be found in that case?
Have realized I am tip-toeing around this thing, thats not my nature so just gonna go ahead and install it, sounds like I may need a bit of advice to set it up when I get a bit further down the road, thanks for input so far guys, new journey for me…!
Here is the main info
- during the first boot there is an option to enable 3rd party repos which will enable the rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver repo
- install the drivers as instructed at Howto/NVIDIA - RPM Fusion
If you did not enable that repo at first boot then the instructions for enabling repos are also shown by the configuration tab on that linked page.
Thank you…!! Already part the way into install, very different to what I am used to but nicely intuative, someone(s) put some thought into this…
Use the dnf4 group list to find the name and use the dnf4 syntax for the command.
The command sudo dnf4 group install "Xfce Desktop" seems like it would work for me.
It is unfortunate that not all the dnf4 groups have been made available for dnf5.
All installed…! Reboot time…
Run dnf environment list to get the environment names
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
ID Name Installed
basic-desktop-environment Basic Desktop no
budgie-desktop-environment Budgie Desktop no
cinnamon-desktop-environment Cinnamon Desktop no
cloud-server-environment Fedora Cloud Server no
cosmic-desktop-environment COSMIC Desktop no
custom-environment Fedora Custom Operating System no
deepin-desktop-environment Deepin Desktop no
developer-workstation-environment Development and Creative Workstation no
i3-desktop-environment i3 desktop no
kde-desktop-environment KDE Plasma Workspaces no
kde-mobile-environment KDE Plasma Mobile no
lxde-desktop-environment LXDE Desktop no
lxqt-desktop-environment LXQt Desktop no
mate-desktop-environment MATE Desktop no
miraclewm-desktop-environment Miracle WM Desktop Environment no
phosh-desktop-environment Phosh Desktop no
server-product-environment Fedora Server Edition no
sugar-desktop-environment Sugar Desktop Environment no
sway-desktop-environment Sway Desktop no
workstation-product-environment Fedora Workstation no
xfce-desktop-environment Xfce Desktop no
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Cool, that works. This command would then be the right one to install XFCE with DNF5:
$ sudo dnf install @xfce-desktop-environment
Maybe, or
sudo dnf group install xfce-desktop-environment
Both seem to work 
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Went with the second one, it all seems to be installing nicely… Have to say that installing Fedora was very painless, always felt I was in control of it and at every point it was clear what was going on, with one or two other distros that was definately not the case…
Another reboot guys and we shall see if xfce is in…