Can anyone please explain this to me?
There is a huge Test organization for F42 and the Beta here. For all platforms / architectures.
It is kind of difficult to find the right ISO, but I guess I made it and every week I write the iso to an USB stick and try to boot F42 beta on a Lenovo ThinkPad T14s Gen 6 (Snapdragon X Elite).
What exactly are the other people testing? And why is there ZERO information about the fedora on ARM notebooks? It is really ZERO. One thread for fedora. One Webseite / Thread for Ubuntu Concept.
Since there is a iso for fedora 42 beta aarch64 workstation and there seems to be something going on, I expected, that something can be done with this version.
What are these people testing? This seems to be a dark secret black box. And it seems like noone is really interested in any kind of follow up with Fedora on Arm Notebooks. Just an initial discussion in 2023, another blog in 2024 and thats it.
What am I missing?
How could this happen? None of the Fedoras are ready for aarch64 workstations.
For Ubuntu we have the concept initiative.
They chose 5 of the favorite devices to support those devicetree blobs.
They also jumped directly to Kernel 6.14 as of lots of bugs are fixed there.
Is anything related in work for F42?
So far, I have downloaded the last 3-4 F42 rawhide and now Beta 1.2 from here
But I have no chance to boot it from USB. I always get the grub menu and thats it. After that
black screen
reboot loop
So, I would really love to test, as I do it already, but there is nothing much to test - as of now.
The question is: When is Fedora 42 going to support arm devices?
I also have same questions. More I can say. I thought that there is already qualcomm support and so, I bought Asus Vivobook S15. I thought that I would have been seeing Windows during about 10-20 minutes, write iso flash with Fedora, and then reinstall system (like I did when I bought 3 years ago MSI Titanā¦) And what I have now? Now I have windows on one of my devices during 3 weeksā¦ Hah)
Welcome to the Forums Peter,
I would start a new thread asking for install advice, Iām sure someone can help. Iām not sure how Fedora works on a Snapdragon X, but I have Fedora on other ARM devices.
Let me guess what devices do you have?) I think itāsā¦ Raspberry PI?)
Well, yesterday, after reading this topic, I downloaded Fedora 42 aarch64 beta ISO, wrote it to flash. And I opened this flash and saw a lot of *.dtb files (about 10-20) in the root path of ISO, and these files have -rpi- mask which, I guess, stands for āRaspberry PIā. More than that, I opened each file to look what inside (and yeah, this is binary file, but we can see some text resources tooā¦)ā¦ And there were āraspberry piā in each file.
So, what I understand about why aarch64 doesnāt work on Snapdragon is because of absense of Device-Tree file for Snapdragon X Elite.
āThe ROCKPro64 is the most powerful single board computer on offer from PINE64, featuring a Rockchip RK3399 hexa-core SoC as well as a quad-core Mali-T860 MP4 GPU and up-to 4GB of dual-channel LPDDR4 system memory. Moreover, the board comes packed with features, including an USB 3.0 and USB type C with DP1.2 port, a full PCIe x4 as well as eMMC module socket. You also get a 40pin header with I2C, SPI, UARTs and GPIOs.ā ROCKPro64 - PINE64
Now I know that I had wrong thoughts about aarch64 architectureā¦
I was waiting for when some good aarch64 processor appearā¦ And when I sought ASUS Vivobook S15 I thought that āthere is a thingā¦ā )
Well, what I have now. 10 years ago I switched to Linux, and thought that I would never use Windows of my own free will). At home - only Linux, Windows - may be at work, if āLinux is not corporate choiceā¦ā or āInform security denies using Linux on workstations - only Windowsā.
And so, now I have also Windows device at homeā¦ (with other Mac and Linux devices)
And now I understand that Iām gonna have Windows on my own device for a long time.
If it is too late to return the device, it is not necessarily the end of the road
Linux moves quickly and at some point I think Snapdragon X support will be made available.
Hunt down the people that can make it happen, badger them politely, and provide some feedback when they need it. It might take months or a year.
Maybe Ubuntu can do it?
** Ubuntu 25.04 (Plucky Puffin), to be released in April 2025, is planned to include out-of-the-box support for Snapdragon X Elite laptops as part of the standard release.
Just look at the Ubuntu Concept Project here
As far as I can see, it supports your ASUS Vivobook S15
It seems like Fedora is not interested in supporting ARM Workstations.
Ubuntu is steps way ahead.
I was in the same situation as you, I bought a 2k Lenovo Thinkpad T14s with Snapdragon Elite in December. First I thought I can trash the device.
But then I tested Ubuntu discourse and: You are lucky, all the project related work is already in Ubuntu 25.04 Plucky Puffin!! Release is planned for mid of April 2025
You can grab either the Concept image or the official Daily Build. I am running a Daily Build image since 3 weeks and it is great! Some things are missing, but they try to put all the achievements in the upstream release.
They go for Kernel 6.14 in Plucky and even if things are merged into the 6.15 release, it is getting backported to .14!
In my eyes, they are doing great work!
Just try a Plucky Puffin daily build. If it doesnāt work, get the concept image. But as of now, daily build should be even as good.
It is not that Fedora is not interested, it is more of a āwe donāt have the volunteers we need to build itā. There are a number of ARM devices that are supported.
Maybe it will help a lot that Ubuntu has done it first so there is a template to copy.
They did even manage to find a way of the Lenovo-firmware into the official Kernel.
Some weeks ago I needed to grab them from the Windows partition - now it is included in the installer.
You will love Ubuntu on ARM.
But we need to wait a bit - the cool ARM stuff, the 24h running battery with good power management is not yet there. But we can be sure it will hit the daily builds soon
Just go and build some whatever project (like OpenWrt) on your ARM device.
It is ARM, it is low energy, it is cheap.
Once you set the 12 or 16 cores on fire, it will compile everything in a few minutes.
My Lenovo Snapdragon Builds Openwrt in the same time as my High Speed Intel i7 Gaming PC !! ARM is the future!
Well yeah, the Kernel 6.14 is ready for the āselected listā of most famous (?) devices.
You will just need to maintain all the required stuff like DTBs and device specific stuff (OLED, Wifi, etc) in the upstream dev.
I donāt know how Ubuntu is doing that. In the beginning, I thought this Ubuntu Concept āTobias Heiderā is a one man show. But there is such a huge interest in that area, that there must be much more people in Kernel and Ubuntu development taking over his findings.
This guy Tobias Heider is a hero - in my pov. I hope he gets los of credits in his env.
Iāve bought Asus Vivobook S15 with such slogan, but failed) haha)
Yeah, itās good that Ubuntu made that, butā¦ I wouldnāt like to use Ubuntu) But, if Ubuntu is gonna be the first OS with full arm support for workstations(laptops), so let it be so) And Iām gonna try and use Ubuntu for sometime, but still my hope is for Fedora.
Also, I heard that openSUSE Tumbleweed has nighty builts and it has latest kernel commitsā¦
Well, now my Asus is laying on my sofa under Macbook pro M1 ))
the devil is always in the details. Which Vivobook S15 is it? x1e-78-100 or x1p-64-100: just take the Ubuntu ISO for a test spin. x1p-42-100 (Snapdragon X Plus 8 cores) is another matter, this is a different SoC. There is a dedicated preinstalled desktop image for Ubuntu here. x1p42100 support is really young, there is no gpu support yet. My repo is carrying the patches for it and some dtbs. Iām running it on a Lenovo Thinkbook 16, though, and it is still fun.
