I’m late to the party, I’ve made a Discussions account just to say NO to any telemetry/analytics.
I’m a day to day desktop Fedora user since about 2016. My first contact with Red Hat was probably in 2004.
Opt-out is evil, opt-in is a lesser evil, but still evil (one “bug” could turn the telemetry options on without anyone knowing it). You can’t opt-out at distro upgrade. OP wants opt-out, as they mentioned, only the hard core users use the opt-in, that is clear. So, they indirectly acknowledge that opt-out is a social engineered option to make people, knowingly or not, give their data out. Telemetry is evil, it helps a few lazy designers and devs, the real main value is for big data companies. Put your brain to work and you will make the best UI/UX/apps ever. This whole thing opens a Pandora Box into spyware. Just NO!
On the “we won’t collect any personal information” subject. Metadata can lead to personal data. This is a fact! Big data companies are using metadata and little other info (like location) to create full personal profiles with good to great accuracy. “Controversial third party services”. You don’t need third party services to be controversial. The tools are there to start collecting data and to become your own big data company, all you need is to hire a couple of data engineers and come up with some proposals like this one and get it accepted. Nothing is anonymous about a hash either.
Let’s say OP is truly honest about their intentions, even though I subjectively doubt it, this whole “feature” will help a fraction of the community. Why waste much of your efforts (time and people) in creating something that doesn’t add up in value (if you’re really not into spyware/big data), when you could just do a better job at Quality Assurance and Quality Control? Are your releases close to perfect? Let’s see, the devil is in the details: “Occasionally, Red Hat might need to collect specific metrics to justify additional time spent on contributing to Fedora or additional investment in Fedora.” Well, well, here’s a sneak peak into the Pandora Box. Nobody asked Red Hat to invest into telemetry on Fedora in the first place.
Not quote-on-quote “It shouldn’t concern you if you don’t use GNOME.” Really?! It’s not like you’re using a gnome- package, you use a 2nd tier package that could lurk into any spins, like it never happened to get even explicitly called gnome packages into other spins before. I don’t buy it. I’m not a GNOME 3 user, but, as others mentioned, GNOME 3 devs have other problems, like ignoring users’ feedback for years. This whole request doesn’t seem to have anything to do with GNOME than the fact OP worked for GNOME project.
Not quote-on-quote “It should respect GDPR / Legal team approved”. GDPR is a great idea poorly implemented. No user can battle a corporation or even a small company who steal their data. The EU regulation is ambiguous, GDPR consent service corporations have found loopholes into collecting data, making everything opt out and painstakingly hard to remove all of the options. By then they’ve already collected everything, as the system was designed to be opt out. Some GDPR services don’t even reside in EU, their clients are the corporations trying to steal users’ data, not the actual users for which GDPR was built. So, from my perspective, GDPR is a nice political fairy tale to impress the masses, but it doesn’t actually do anything much (I’ve read stories about healthy responses from the government organizations in Germany, but this is one country). In the end, GDPR made opportunistic and connected companies rich by offering consulting and web consent services. How come Microsoft didn’t get any penalty for using default on telemetry/analytics in Windows 10/11 in EU?! I wonder. So talking about GDPR is, for me, pointless. Anyone who cares about privacy knows zero data is best, opt-in in the cute evil and opt-out is a total violation of privacy rights. Funny enough, the same corporations who want to steal every day people’s data are the ones that fear the most sharing data with others or using software that might leak any information about their systems. Ironic. It’s for “security reasons”. And people privacy isn’t about security at all, right. Perhaps it’s not, it’s much more than that, it’s a human right.
Another non quote-on-quote “But X does it, and Y does it”. Because others do telemetry, it doesn’t make it right. Firefox is a good example. Just because they used opt-out telemetry and got away with it, it doesn’t make it morally right.
WOW, JUST WOW! Most users will not care or most users WILL NOT KNOW about dark pattern opt out telemetry to have an opinion on it? Or maybe it’s because, as I’ve mentioned, they have been conditioned to accept anything tech related. I think it’s both, not knowing and conditioned not to question things they don’t know much about. Sounds about right for a dictatorial political maneuver.
Thanks for taking the time to read my post.