You have to sell it. Simple.
And sales don’t need any technical features or even the products to be good. It is more about psychology.
You don’t like it?
I bet you don’t work in sales.
But, we ain’t selling anything. That’s sort of the point.
Yeah right.
You know the usual joke “this is the year of linux on the desktop”.
Besides it isn’t true, Fedora gets “sponsored” because of sales, only they can’t be on the “customer” market, they are on the “corporate” market, meaning the technical guys in the basement.
Here come another old issue, “linux” to replace MS products in the government and corporate business. Google can develop its own tools, doesn’t ask Microsoft. The Ministry of Something in my country instead wants to be told what to do and you know how those bids work, it is the same if they are buying pencils, tanks or software. I don’t know how competitive Redhat is against Microsoft when they both place an offering to the Ministry of Something.
Anyway, I think the original topic was about customer sales.
I want to add another thing: the failure of “convergence”.
Not the idea of porting TV business on the Web.
The idea of having a single device that works as portable computer and telephone and whatever else, plugging dock stations and other devices when needed, adapting the GUI to the different modes.
It failed (including MS) because most people don’t do any real work on their devices, so a smartphone is even too much.
Those who do real work don’t need “convergence” because they have the right tool in the right time and place.
And we are back to the fundamental idea of sales people (and maybe guys like Jobs) that most people, read customers, are monkeys.
This went so off topic and weird ranting so fast the talk was about copilot+ and Microsoft pushing it to everywhere with privacy concerns and now this is just really wierd ranting about sales and other stuff
Mods just clean this and close it if need
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Privacy concerns?
You know most people go around with one or more smartphones and those have been designed on purpose as surveillance devices.
There isn’t any privacy any more.
It is not about privacy but about “the bubble”.
When you are under constant surveillance you can be presented with a selection of information/contents that matches your habits with the goals of whoever pays for controlling your behavior.
It can be done with politics, to create and maintain a “bubble” around each voter, it can be done with consumes, to create and maintain a “bubble” around each customer. It can be anything actually.
The very concept of “augmented reality” is just this, to close each of us inside a “bubble” of information and the concept of “wearable devices” is meant so you never get out of the bubble, it is sent directly inside your retina.
Back with the previous comments, that is what people are conditioned to want, to desire. It is “good” and whoever gets out of the machine is a drop-out from the society.
Yeah this is a nonsense rant.
My take is that I know what I want to do on my PC and don’t need to be involving someone else’s black box of inconsistency just because it’s the hot thing.
AI can be an optional addition to the OS, but absolutely not baked-in, and I have serious concerns with any Linux distro trying to do that when it can’t even boot consistently. Priorities.
From my point of view there is always the issue about what hardware I can find in the stores for an accessible price.
An “optional AI” probably requires some dedicated chip so it is not much an option when you must buy the PC with that chip on board.
I bought a Dell low-end laptop years ago because it came with “linux” preinstalled. But I bet Dell aims to Windows sales first and then, maybe, offers some model with “linux”. It is quite improbable that the two lines can separate at the hardware level so basically we have to deal with whatever runs with Windows.
This is the Water Cooler, so some topic drift is normal. Mods and Trust Level 3 site members, feel free to split topics into new ones if the tangents seem to be too much.
Or, if you’re tired of a particular long topic, anyone can use the Mute Topic feature, which will hide it from your own notifications.
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we need an emoji reaction for “LOL”
there was never privacy on Telegram
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I think “LOL” could be seen as very toxic when used on certain posts. So that might be a problem?
That should be trust level 4 right? I don’t see any option to split topics.
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Oh, yes, it seems so. You need to have access to the magic 
menu, and I think all of those things start at TL4. 
Weirdly, as of now, it seems that Recall is an opt-out feature since the feature is enabled by default and during OOBE the only option is to open the Settings app automatically after the setup to disable Recall.
At least Recall requires an ARM CPU so I will continue to use x86_64 instead :P.
Just no words
I’m sure Microsoft will get around to enabling official support sometime soon, so no one feels left out. For now, the community has already gotten it running on unsupported ARM devices.
It has been said and rumored it will vome to normal too aka non ARM devices there is simple github repo to enable it already
I don’t think it is happening any time soon people won’t change it there will be NO such influx of users due to copilot pc… Mark my words.
How many users at least deny the data collection and analytics on there windows pc let me tell you a extremly small sets of users are.
For linux to be mainstreamed we need to make sure our distro is ready for non technical users which is not the case.
Only few distros provide a immutable variant.
We need silverblue and aeon like distros.
Still does not have many features like can be updated firmware with silverblue on os update flatpak apps can not be updated with os update hence we don’t have full control and rpm-ostree is kind of a half baked thing and don’t know systemd sys-update how good this maybe will know once gnome os makes its debut
And that need to be pushed by the brands that sell linux laptops…
Which will actually work. Note what happend with steamdeck.