2024-03-18 @ **16:00** UTC - Fedora 40 Blocker Review Meeting

Hi folks! It’s time for another blocker review meeting. We have 1 proposed freeze exception for Beta, and 10 proposed blockers for Final.

As a reminder, clocks went forward in North America last week, so the meeting is an hour earlier in UTC than it was before. If you have changed your clocks forward recently the meeting will be at the same local time as before, it not it will be earlier. Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time.

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If you have time today, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here.

Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you’ll see links labeled “Vote!” next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. This page has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn’t a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!

We’ll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they’re not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the wiki.

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And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it’s supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki.

Have a good day and see you tomorrow!

#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org: F40-blocker-review

Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 16:01:08 UTC

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC:Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:01:11)
  2. TOPIC:Introduction (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:38)
    1. INFO: Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:43)
    2. INFO: We'll be following the process outlined at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:47)
    3. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:51)
    4. INFO: The bugs up for review today are available at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:53)
    5. LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:56)
    6. INFO: The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:59)
    7. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:02)
    8. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_40_Beta_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:04)
    9. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_40_Final_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:06)
    10. INFO: for Beta, we have: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:11)
    11. INFO: 1 Proposed Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:32)
    12. INFO: 6 Accepted Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:36)
    13. INFO: 1 Accepted Previous Release Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:38)
    14. INFO: 4 Proposed Freeze Exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:40)
    15. INFO: 8 Accepted Freeze Exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:43)
    16. INFO: for Final, we have: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:49)
    17. INFO: 10 Proposed Blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:09:57)
    18. INFO: František Zatloukal will secretarialize (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:03)
  3. TOPIC:Proposed Beta blocker (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:17)
  4. TOPIC:(2270030) Fedora Workstation Live ISO uses wrong Plymouth theme (tribar) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:25)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270030 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:27)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1526 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:30)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, fedora-release, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:32)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-kparal) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:11:34)
    5. AGREED: 2270030 - RejectedBlocker (Beta) AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is rejected as a beta blocker as we can't find any criterion it violates and it appears to be a merely cosmetic issue. It's accepted as an FE if it proves to be a reproducible bug with a clear and safe fix (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:17:48)
  5. TOPIC:Proposed Beta freeze exceptions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:03)
  6. TOPIC:(2267754) Include GNOME Shell (etc.) 46 in Fedora 40 Beta (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:13)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2267754 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:16)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1493 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:19)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, distribution, MODIFIED, depends on other bugs (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:22)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+4,0,-2) (+ngompa, +geraldosimiao, +adamwill, +frantisekz, -nielsenb, -lruzicka) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:18:24)
    5. AGREED: 2267754 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted on the grounds it fixes a large number of crashers and other bugs, it has solid feedback so far, and seems to be passing openQA's distribution tests in Rawhide. We intend to pull it into a candidate compose (assuming there is another) without pushing it stable first, so it can easily be reverted if necessary (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:29:59)
  7. TOPIC:(2270070) There's no F40 LXQT iso (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:30:20)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270070 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:30:23)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1527 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:30:27)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, distribution, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:30:30)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaFreezeException (+1,0,-0) (+geraldosimiao) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:30:33)
    5. AGREED: 2270070 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as we usually accept FEs to fix non-blocking image builds, of course this cannot be fixed outside of the freeze and it is a significant benefit to make sure the image is present in Beta (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:05)
  8. TOPIC:(2270138) Kiwi-built container base image is missing gzip and sudo (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:19)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270138 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:22)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1529 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:25)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, kiwi, POST (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:37:28)
    4. AGREED: 2270138 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's clearly desirable for the Kiwi images to contain everything we intended and which was in the ImageFactory images, and the lack of gzip especially is known to screw up at least one real-world use case (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:40:53)
  9. TOPIC:(2269992) sdubby instead of grubby is installed by default (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:41:00)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269992 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:41:02)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1525 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:41:05)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, sdubby, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:41:08)
    4. AGREED: 2269992 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's clearly not intended behaviour and cannot be fixed with a post-release update, we want Beta installs to get grubby not sdubby unless they're using inst.sdboot (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:46:17)
  10. TOPIC:(2270154) Partially revert bootupd support for Atomic desktops (again) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:48:47)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2270154 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:48:52)
    2. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, distribution, POST (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:48:56)
    3. AGREED: 2270154 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted on the grounds that we know the old way works, and the atomic desktop images are not blocking, so we're willing to defer to the maintainer's idea of what's best here since the change is limited to the atomic desktop definitions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:27)
  11. TOPIC:Accepted Beta blocker status review (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:05)
  12. TOPIC:(2267968) Raspberry Pi 400 shows nothing on screen when booting Fedora 40 images (even before grub) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:29)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2267968 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:32)
    2. INFO: Accepted Blocker, bcm283x-firmware, ASSIGNED (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:55:35)
    3. INFO: Peter Robinson is working on this one and has some avenues of investigation, we will see what he comes up with (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:04:47)
    4. INFO: all other regular blockers are addressed in Beta-1.7. some that are in ON_QA could actually be marked VERIFIED, I will do that in a bit (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:17)
  13. TOPIC:(2242759) dnf system-upgrade fails on some RPi4 due to system boot date that pre-dates gpg key (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:22)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2242759 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:25)
    2. INFO: Accepted Previous Release Blocker, distribution, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:06:27)
    3. INFO: we note that this is sadly still outstanding, we were hoping to have figured out some kind of fix during this cycle but we clearly didn't. We believe it should remain as a blocker for now, but expect to consider waiving it again at the go/no-go meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:15:13)
  14. TOPIC:Proposed Final blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:15:46)
  15. TOPIC:(2269361) Can't login to Cockpit web interface as root (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:16:49)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269361 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:16:53)
    2. INFO: Proposed Blocker, cockpit, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:16:56)
    3. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+0,0,-2) (-adamwill, -sgallagh) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:17:11)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-2) (-adamwill, -nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:17:18)
    5. AGREED: 2269361 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected as we all agree it can be argued as a conditional violation of the criteria, but our subjective opinion (as is required for conditional violations) is that it's not a serious enough case to count as a blocker. it has been the case for several releases without major complaints (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:34)
  16. TOPIC:(2268583) [abrt] gnome-software: gtk_widget_get_parent_muxer.constprop.0(): gnome-software killed by SIGSEGV (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:44)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2268583 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:46)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1513 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:49)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, gtk4, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:53)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+catanzaro) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:57)
    5. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalFreezeException (+2,1,-0) (+asciiwolf, +catanzaro, nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:29:00)
    6. INFO: discussion on this bug indicated that our decision on 2267554 was not 100% clear, so we are gonna circle back to that temporarily (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:33:44)
  17. TOPIC:(2267754) Include GNOME Shell (etc.) 46 in Fedora 40 Beta (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:33:50)
    1. AGREED: we clarify that the FE granted to this bug intends to cover the inclusion of both https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-a74ce3e5c4 and https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-1ed0b13d87 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:36:47)
    2. INFO: returning to the proposed Final blocker bug we were previously discussing (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:38:12)
  18. TOPIC:(2268583) [abrt] gnome-software: gtk_widget_get_parent_muxer.constprop.0(): gnome-software killed by SIGSEGV (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:38:22)
    1. INFO: as this will likely be fixed by the Beta FE now, let's skip it for time reasons (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:38:44)
  19. TOPIC:(2267951) [abrt] gnome-shell: gnome-shell killed by SIGBUS (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:40:27)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2267951 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:40:30)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1496 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:40:34)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, mutter, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:40:36)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,1,-1) (+lruzicka, geraldosimiao, -nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:40:39)
    5. AGREED: 2267951 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is rejected for now as there seems to be no indication anyone but lruzicka has hit it yet, so it's too narrow in scope to block the release. But as Shell crashers are very serious, we will reconsider this if we see any indication anyone else is running into it (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:31)
  20. TOPIC:(2266050) [abrt] plasma-workspace-libs: _execute_child(): subprocess.py:1953:_execute_child:FileNotFoundError: [Errno 2] No such file or directory: 'qtpaths' (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:43)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2266050 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:46)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1481 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:50)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, plasma-workspace, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:55)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+3,0,-0) (+nielsenb, +lruzicka, +geraldosimiao) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:48:58)
    5. AGREED: 2266050 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - the details of this don't seem to be all nailed down yet, but it definitely seems concerning enough in a couple of ways to accept as a blocker for now: the crash notification may be a violation of the final criterion requiring no crash notifications on first boot if it's confirmed to affect clean installs, and the crash indicates that some configuration migration is failing on upgrades which could cause more serious consequences also (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:39)
  21. TOPIC:(2269286) Snapshot displays only solid pink image (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:46)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269286 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:48)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1517 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:51)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, snapshot, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:54)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-nielsenb) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:56:57)
    5. AGREED: 2269286 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of the requirement for Workstation that all preinstalled apps must "start successfully and withstand a basic functionality test" - https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_40_Final_Release_Criteria#Default_application_functionality (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:25)
  22. TOPIC:(2269343) After update wireplumber to 0.4.90-1.fc41 version only headset mic is working when I connect bluetooth headset (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:44)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2269343 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:47)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1518 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:49)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, wireplumber, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:52)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+0,0,-1) (-geraldosimiao) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:02:55)
    5. AGREED: 2269343 - punt (delay decision) - the affected wireplumber is not stable for F40 yet, and 0.5.0 has come out in the mean time. let's punt on this one and ask the reporter to test with 0.5.0. if 0.5.0 is broken, and it gets pushed stable for F40, then we can make a decision on it... (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:06:32)
  23. TOPIC:Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 18:06:37)


Meeting ended at 18:14:12 UTC

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