Introduce yourself 2025

Asking “how” is normal, no? The best way to make everyone benefit from your experience of “taking things away” is to open a new thread with a write up.

I guess people use distros like Arch and Alpine for simplicity, but they are doing sculpting by additive synthesis - gradually adding things.. until a behemoth like systemd looms on the horizon.

In any case - more pictures - better reading experience. I am puzzled why people don’t use the AI capabilities to generate them. Maybe those OpenAI/ChatGPT is not nearly as good as they are hyped.

I have done that & it’s not hard to do because the information is there & the tools to do it are available. It’s almost a straight forward process when you have everything. I don’t have a w11 machine but if I did I could probably remove windows recall as well.

Right disabling it is something that can be done. But I want to remove it completely not disable it. I get that this is apart of gnome & not the os most people just switch around till their content. I been trying other desktop environments & unfortunately they don’t seem well on my laptop. As for the touch screen responses, scrolling by finger & the keyboard ugh. I tried kde desktop & kde mobile I wish their keyboard wasn’t so ugly & the layout button actually worked the keyboard wouldn’t switch to the full computer layout.

Like I said it’s 2 in one laptop the keyboard may be detachable & you can use it like a tablet but it’s still a laptop. That style the 2 in 1 being a figure of speech is just the modern way they build laptops now. Most of them will have touch screen & the feature of pulling the keyboard off the laptop. You can get real work done things just need to be revamped for modernization.

I see this is good to know of the forks extensions however is to addon to it & not to remove stuff unfortunately.

Are you guessing that the wellbeing is interlinked with something else? I would like to find out since there has to be a way to remove it.

Nah; everyone likes hard-deleting system files and registry hacks that’ll fall apart next CU or sfc :stuck_out_tongue: (unless there’s a method I’m not aware of)

Mostly guessing, but journalctl -xe reported things not found at random when I removed stuff like GNOME Software, and I recall something about GNOME Weather too after removal.

I’m not sure if any other part of GNOME is modular, but it does seem odd they’d integrate a tracker into the DE vs having it as a separate uninstallable app.

I’m thinking once GNOME 48 hits more distros, someone will find a way to remove it.

Back when I had a 2-in-1 Plasma 5 was new, and it shipped without an on-screen keyboard :rofl: I went to GNOME real quick.

GNOME was also the best back then because they had tablet sensors (ambient light/rotate) already linked up to iio-sensor-proxy and it just-worked (no other DE knew what that stuff was).

I guess the things that are “integrated” are both what the developers expect to be the “essentials” and things that depends on each other. For example, in Fedora you don’t see “Gnome Mail” (Evolution) pre-installed but, as it is the case in Plasma as well, parts of Evolution are required for the calendar, notifications and such. The problem with it is if Evolution was pre-installed and I wanted to remove it because I prefer Thunderbird, probably I would remove too much disabling lots of other features. Yes, probably with enough motivation, instructions and typing I could avoid the issues but is it worth it?

One of the first things I wanted to do with Gnome was to get rid of Gnome Software because I have few RAM and I don’t really need it. Then I thought it is better to disable it so it is still available both as “app” from the “grid” and in case some other thing expect it to be present. Much like Windows services when you set them for activating upon request instead of running at boot. It is much much less trouble to just add a text file to instruct Gnome Software to not run at boot.

There are several things in Fedora defaults that I don’t need, if they are “apps” I just create a “group” in the “grid” and place them in there. Why bothering with attempting removal? Even worse for “system components”. I don’t need the “bluetooth” thing, I disable the “scanning for devices” and I leave it alone.

I still regret all the “utilities” I used long ago to “make Windows better”. Like “registry cleaner”. Clean it from what? The changes made by installing the utilities.

1 Like

Particularly with GNOME Weather, it’s shipped with broken locations and it leaves a notification shade for it. Their decision to do GTK4 or whatever is odd enough that I just uninstall it :stuck_out_tongue:

GNOME Software is related to PackageKit, which I’ve seen on headless servers taking up like 500MB RAM not even touching it; it also usually blocks zypper on fresh openSUSE installs. I do everything dnf, and don’t want the scenario of packagekit taking a chunk of RAM while I’m running a game and it being pushed to swap to prioritize whatever packagekit might be doing :stuck_out_tongue:

I try to disable things at first, but if it’s easy to remove or might have less problems overall I remove it.

BleachBit was kind of nice (it did temp files from Steam, games, Firefox, registry, etc), but while I never had any issues with it, it seemed a little risky to blindly trust a list for removing GBs of temp files :stuck_out_tongue: (I used the ini community option in settings).

I expect that GNOME Weather also won’t work reliably because of the removal of accurate location services. Mozilla terminated their location service that was previously used by Fedora for geolocation, and there is currently no good open source alternative. As a consequence we currently only have location data that is reliable enough for things like timezones, but not for city level accuracy.

In my experience PackageKit does not eat RAM when it is not activated by Gnome Software. I just checked and it is not even listed as “process” . I don’t know if there is something else related to it.

Removal versus disabling is a matter of choice, I tend to do as less changes possible to the given system, both because I don’t want to create more problems (and in case, the default configuration makes it easier to report and get help) and because I am lazy and I don’t feel like repeating the procedure with any upgrade. So I prefer disabling.

About Windows, as soon as I stopped trying to “make it better” adding and removing, it worked pretty much without any major flaw. I just checked the system log after updates and from time to time I had to manually correct some errors or warnings. Anyway, looking back at those times, it is incredible how much better, easier and care free Fedora is compared to Windows.

1 Like

It seems to work here, I mean the localization. It picks one of the two major cities near the place where I live, that is less than 5km. I don’t know about the forecast, if the service is provided by the norwegian meteo agency, that is the extreme north of Europe while I live in the south.

Hi, I’m Christopher. Long time Linux user on-and-off throughout the years, but I’ve really gotten back into in earlier this year and now use Fedora on my main computer. (I’m mostly a KDE guy, but love and admire GNOME as well, and have an openSUSE Tumbleweed GNOME install set up on my second!)

I used (among others) Fedora Core 1 and 2 back in the olden days (yeah, I’m old - about to turn 46!) and it’s amazing how far it (and many other distros) have come since then! 42 is just really well-polished and a joy to use.

I use Fedora for a variety of purposes:

Right now I’m doing some programming stuff and there is a ton of resource for that in the Linux world. I’m taking CS50, right now just Intro to Computer Science, and a few Udemy courses (C++ programming, Linux CLI commands, a Python course.) All of this is just a hobby for now; I realize what a crappy time I picked to start investing some time and effort into this field with widespread tech layoffs and the advent of AI. But I have no preconceived notions of any of it leading to a job; I’m just doing it for the love of doing it and I’ll see what happens in the future.

Besides that I do some digital art. I’d like to set up a project workflow for a digital comic or webcomic using all open-source software, and Linux in today’s world seems more than capable of doing that.

And I do some 3d modeling in Blender - pleasantly surprised that Fedora’s Blender install sets up ROCm for AMD GPUs for you.

Nice being here, and looking forward to interacting with you!

1 Like

Nice to meet fellow blender and visual artist with cs50 course with c+o pn top.

This almost sounds my start Linux on off for years untill about 5 years ago made the switch and distro hopping alit, but only coming back to fedora always.

I started my journey when I was 40 and now coming to 45 with some basic web site stuff and evolved more to c/c++, python, three JS/blender world and now I just started 3 years software engineer/developer school.

I love to learn and make interactive three.js stuff with blender tho still learning everyday and last year’s got more on server workflows and app development on my goals too, but main is still visuals with nice three.js animated stuff
Focusing more now on next.js, react, JavaScript at this moment

Welcome to Community

1 Like