Decision-Making, Governance, Council, Red Hat — a breakout topic for the F40 Change Request on Privacy-preserving telemetry for Fedora Workstation

[mwpow3ll (Michael)]

@mattdm

That’s great (even if the sheer volume has made it all a bit hard to keep up with). But, it feels like a lot of folks are showing up without understanding Fedora’s long-standing process. I’ve seen a lot of people saying they’ll never trust Fedora again because this was even proposed — I won’t put words in your mouth, but I think that’s what you’re implying with “not sure about that anymore”. I’m also seeing many people upset with Michael for defending the proposal. But that’s… how it works. It’s something he and his team want to do. So of course he’s going to advocate for it. (Some of his language could have been a lot more diplomatic. But not everyone should have to be a silver-tongued diplomat to suggest an idea! There isn’t a corporate PR team approving any of this.)

I’m tired of seeing this excuse…

I understand FESco needs to make a decision, but what we have here is a very one-sided proposal that the majority of the community, new and old members, within minutes is able to identify flatly that it is not a good fit.

Proposals should need to meet a bare minimum of acceptance within a short period of time; because part of the reason why this “discussion” is stale is due to the fact that the current proposal has not been updated and @catanzaro keeps maintaining his position while @mattdm keeps telling us, the community to be patient.

Well, I’m sorry… I’m not waiting 18+ days or however long for FESco to do what should have been done by now: reject this proposal and close these discussions until a new proposal is submitted. We need faster turn-around time / action from FESco when it is clear the proposal isn’t mature enough.