Sorry, don’t quite understand that. Are you saying my issue with no spacebar previews in file/open dialogues will be resolved when i upgrade to F41?
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I am not honestly sure what ‘packages of the Gnome desktop and Gnome apps’ are.
Can you give me any examples to help me understand? I assume Thunderbird is not a Gnome app. I assume Files app probably is, since it was installed by default.
I’m getting a bit nervous now. I’ve just played with KDE Plasma on an old iMac, just using a Live USB. I REALLY like what I see so far, dang that desktop looks so handy 
I do however notice I may have quite a few new learning curves, not least in actually moving my real live system from Gnome to KDE Plasma, with as little headache (moving my files) as possible). I had assumed I could just do a fresh install from live usb, overwrite everything with KDE Spin F41, then pull my data from backup drive which has everything in my Home folder.
But on second thoughts, I’m not so sure it will be that straight forward now.
I have also thought of a couple of other issues.
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I realise I have done a fair bit of customization, and I’m not sure if I can do the same things on KDE. For example, I have Pano clipboard manager installed, can I get that on KDE? I also set up a lot of custom keyboard shortcuts using Gnome Tweaks (I think). Maybe KDE will just give me that level of keyboard customisation natively, without needing extensions or apps to get the setup I want. But it’s cause for concern, since I will have to wipe my system and then won’t have one to refer to in order to replicate mjy setup.
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I have just played with Dolphin, but the spacebar doesn’t give me a preview. Instead it brings up a turqoise notice at the top saying “Selection Mode: Click on files or folders to select or deselect them”. I thought Dolphin had a space bar preview feature, am I wrong or do I just need to find out how to make it do it?
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Telemetry is the process of collecting and transmitting measurements, values and data of a remote object. This data may include:
System and application crashes
Hardware and software configuration
User behavior and preferences
Security and update status
Performance and resource utilization
This information helps operating system developers to improve their products, fix bugs and provide a better experience for their users.
But the data obtained is critical for cybersecurity. It can contain so much data that it can interfere with your system.
There is no such thing as “I don’t enable telemetry”. If Fedora distributes Fedora 42 with it enabled, you can’t turn it off.
There is currently no proposed change that would turn on telemetry. in fedora 40 they thought about doing it, at least they wanted to. It didn’t even pass the vote. But that doesn’t mean it’s going to go on forever. After all, even though it’s developed by the free community, it’s funded by redhat with donations. This means that redhat has a say. No need to be naive.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry#Current_status
Companies have many tactics after all.
Set up an organization called a foundation to avoid paying taxes and transfer your money there. It looks like a foundation, but it’s really a safe.
This is an example.
Another example is that you are an OS developer, you produce a paid and advanced OS. To speed up production, you support an open source, free desktop OS, with the same base and the same package manager. Then you release another open source Enterprise OS, same base, same package manager. When you look at it, it is a free OS developed by the community. But it is owned by the community.
An interesting tale. But I asked what you meant by "He also plans to enable telemetry in fedora 42, at least he wants to.[/quote]
and whether the ‘he’ referred to me.
I now assume ‘he’ refers to someone making decisions about Fedora future development, rather than one dumb user called me
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Nautilus has the feature you mentioned. When you import a photo from a website, a thumbnail-like preview appears on the right side.
I guess normally when you want to view it, you should run nautilus and click on the image and you should get a preview on the right side. This feature is not there. But you can enlarge images by Ctrl + mouse ball up, and you can activate the thumbnail feature in the preferences. Not as useful as the feature you want. But it works. It only works for photo formats, not for any text etc.
There is no such thing as “I don’t enable telemetry”. If Fedora distributes Fedora 42 with it enabled, you can’t turn it off.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/Telemetry#User_Experience
You can try KDE plasma. it doesn’t require you to delete gnome. if you want to delete gnome, you can’t delete it completely. software like gnome-shell is intertwined with fedora and is marked as undeletable. You can uninstall the gnome desktop environment if you want. You can also just use kde plasma. Or you can use both together. All you have to do is select the desktop environment by clicking on the gear icon at the bottom right of the user password screen. If you want, you can install all desktop environments and run them as you wish.
Don’t let this scare you. It is very easy to get back to the gnome desktop environment. If things aren’t the same and the graphics are messed up, you just need to reinstall. If you’re going to try another desktop environment, first copy and backup the desktop environment’s settings and configurations, then you can revert back to the old settings when you get back. I don’t know how to backup settings and configurations, but I did it with chatgpt.
Come on, security experts know that this is what it looks like on the surface, but what goes on behind the scenes is not known to the ordinary user.
I’m getting very confused.
If I want to delete Gnome, it’s because I will be sure I will not use it again, so I will want to install the KDE Plasma ‘spin’, from scratch. I have heard you can get in a mess by running two DE’s at the same time. I have a spare machine to play with KDE Plasma. Once I finish playing, if I am certain I want to switch to that full time, I want Gnome gone as it will just be a source of future confusions.
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No, you’re not understanding me. I dont mean a little preview window inside file manager. I mean I want to hit space bar to pop up a large preview. I use that extensively (after years on Mac, and I can do it in Gnome too). I thought KDE/Nautilus had that feature. If it doens’t, I will need to find a File Manager that can do it, or stick with Gnome
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I like kde plasma better in terms of usability. Definitely give it a try. My favorite is kde plasma.
What I’m trying to say is that fedora hasn’t fully integrated kde yet, you might have some annoying issues. On other distros and distros with KDE Plasma as the main desktop, it works flawlessly. Unfortunately this is not the case with fedora.
There was a poll and it was a discussion about which desktop environment we would like to have as the default main desktop environment in fedora 42. About KDE Plasma being the default desktop environment in Fedora 42. many users voted in favor of it.
I highly recommend you to give it a try.
I have to say that kde plasma will ask you to use many kde applications. Of course, install them and try them out.
In my experience gnome apps are better and smoother. KDE’s applications are sometimes annoying.
I’ve never used apple so I don’t know the file manager features. .sorry.
I clicked both links, the second one is (I assume) the best one since I am on Fedora. But, as always, I have no clue how to actually install it! Could you please advise how I get it installed to try it out and see if the columns are usable?
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No problem, have you used Gnome? If so, that does exactly the same thing. No worries though.
“was”??
You keep mentioning Fedora 42, it’s confusing me as I am on F40, and just in last few days I was offered F41 in Software updates. I assumed Fedora 42 hasn’t been written yet, but you refer to it in the past tense, please explain!
fedora 42 continues to be developed. We will be able to upgrade in 2025.
When an operating system version is upgraded, new features, updates, bug fixes and performance improvements are usually added. The version name is changed because this indicates a significant update or change.
For example, the difference between Fedora 40 and Fedora 41 may include new features, updated software and better performance. The names are different because each new version is distinctly different from the previous version and helps users understand these changes.
I know software updates happen, and version numbers grow with each update. Please read my exact question. To recap…
You keep referring to Fedora 42 in the PAST tense, like it’s an old version, but it’s not even available yet, as it’s in the future?!
You said “KDE Plasma was the default desktop environment on fedora 42”. And you mentioned Fedora 42 in an earlier post so I assume it’s not a typo
My English is not good. I apologize. Fedora 42 is still under development. It is under development. Not deployed.
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You could try the Krusader file manager. The basics are quite straight forward, and it has a number of other functions that can also be helpful. To change the info displayed for the items, right click on the column header and change the info displayed. It also uses Krename for multiple file renaming, and Filelight to show disc usage if you want to install them as well. There are tutorials and videos if you want to search and check some out.
For having a quick view of images, I install qiv. In Krusader, right click on an image file and select “Open with”, then select “other” at the bottom of the list. Enter “qiv” (without the quotes) at the top of the “Open With” dialog, and hit enter to display the image. To set qiv as default, just check the box at the bottom of the “Open With” dialog before pressing enter. Once qiv is set as default, it will be used when double clicking on an image file. Note that for every file format, the same process will need to be repeated.
To close qiv, just middle click on it or press the escape key. If the image is too large to fit on the screen, press “m” to fit it into the screen, and adjust size with the + or - keys. For more options, press F1.
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Not a problem at all, no apology needed, just wanted to check as I wondered if I was behind on updates or something!