6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64 & mutter upgrade, causes troubles. I had to downgrade mutter again

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While upgrading to kernel 6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64 today, after reboot I could login. Then I just could move with the mouse and nothing I clicked worked. Appeared to be dead.

While moving the mouse to the bottom it showed me the hover-text from the extension dash to dock.
Opening Settings worked but i could not click anything (same as after login).

After power off the restart in kernel 6.11.10 worked and a downgrade from mutter helped me to use the newest kernel again.

sudo dnf history info 326
Transaction ID : 326
Begin time     : 2024-12-12 11:23:51
Begin rpmdb    : cb22f2f14024eeac3bcb1ff1d4360d44666c72a4996cfe1f1e4a59254a3948f3
End time       : 2024-12-12 11:25:56
End rpmdb      : 4312347b51497bae6cf3fbcefb8260a49d32f71165ee61594c9eb429a8501fed
User           : 1000 *************
Status         : Ok
Releasever     : 40
Description    : dnf5 upgrade
Comment        : 
Packages altered:
  Action   Package                                            Reason          Repository
  Install  kernel-modules-extra-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64     External User   updates
  Install  kernel-modules-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64           External User   updates
  Install  kernel-core-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64              External User   updates
  Install  kernel-modules-core-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64      External User   updates
  Install  kernel-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64                   External User   updates
  Upgrade  gnome-shell-0:46.7-1.fc40.x86_64                   Group           updates
  Upgrade  gvisor-tap-vsock-6:0.8.1-1.fc40.x86_64             Dependency      updates
  Upgrade  gvisor-tap-vsock-gvforwarder-6:0.8.1-1.fc40.x86_64 External User   updates
  Upgrade  kernel-tools-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64             Weak Dependency updates
  Upgrade  kernel-tools-libs-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64        Dependency      updates
  Upgrade  mutter-0:46.7-1.fc40.x86_64                        Dependency      updates
  Upgrade  mutter-common-0:46.7-1.fc40.noarch                 Dependency      updates
  Upgrade  virtiofsd-0:1.13.0-1.fc40.x86_64                   External User   updates
  Remove   kernel-0:6.11.7-200.fc40.x86_64                    User            @System
  Remove   kernel-core-0:6.11.7-200.fc40.x86_64               User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-0:6.11.7-200.fc40.x86_64            User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-core-0:6.11.7-200.fc40.x86_64       User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-extra-0:6.11.7-200.fc40.x86_64      User            @System
  Replaced gnome-shell-0:46.6-2.fc40.x86_64                   Group           @System
  Replaced gvisor-tap-vsock-6:0.8.0-1.fc40.x86_64             Dependency      @System
  Replaced gvisor-tap-vsock-gvforwarder-6:0.8.0-1.fc40.x86_64 External User   @System
  Replaced kernel-tools-0:6.11.10-200.fc40.x86_64             Weak Dependency @System
  Replaced kernel-tools-libs-0:6.11.10-200.fc40.x86_64        Dependency      @System
  Replaced mutter-0:46.6-1.fc40.x86_64                        Dependency      @System
  Replaced mutter-common-0:46.6-1.fc40.noarch                 Dependency      @System
  Replaced virtiofsd-0:1.10.1-1.fc40.x86_64                   External User   @System

Downgrade:

sudo dnf history info 327
Transaction ID : 327
Begin time     : 2024-12-12 12:56:07
Begin rpmdb    : 4312347b51497bae6cf3fbcefb8260a49d32f71165ee61594c9eb429a8501fed
End time       : 2024-12-12 12:56:11
End rpmdb      : f924a422e8caed642b68963942e690f8a22a8756d855eddc712480ecb2aada4b
User           : 1000 ***********
Status         : Ok
Releasever     : 40
Description    : dnf downgrade mutter
Comment        : 
Packages altered:
  Action    Package                            Reason     Repository
  Downgrade mutter-0:46.0-1.fc40.x86_64        Dependency fedora
  Downgrade mutter-common-0:46.0-1.fc40.noarch Dependency fedora
  Replaced  mutter-0:46.7-1.fc40.x86_64        Dependency @System
  Replaced  mutter-common-0:46.7-1.fc40.noarch Dependency @System

GPU:

$ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 3rd Gen Core processor Graphics driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4
    compositor: gnome-shell v: 46.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915 resolution: 2560x1080
  API: OpenGL v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 24.1.7 renderer: Mesa Intel HD
    Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2)
  API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
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6.11.11 marks the end of life of 6.11.

As far as I have seen, the tests of 6.12 have been positive since 6.12.3, it was just waited for the bpftool maintainer since then (don’t know what this was about), and it seems this has happened already:

6.12.4 is now in bodhi’s testing and the bodhi tests are so far mostly positive as well (the one with negative karma refers to two bugs of around 2006, so I am not sure if I take that report serious).

So you might try to test 6.12.4 the way it was pushed to bodhi-testing and see if your issue is still present with that one. If this is a kernel issue, we can say for sure that it will be only processed if it still occurs on 6.12:

https://bodhi.fedoraproject.org/updates/FEDORA-2024-9fb3492511

If it still occurs on 6.12, you might increase the amount of kernels that remain installed in advance to further updates, in order to ensure that you still keep 6.11.10 installed (default is 3 kernels).

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Workaround (click on arrow).

grubby

List all installed kernels

To get the index number of all the installed kernels:

sudo grubby --info=ALL | grep -E "^kernel|^index"

The output should be something like this:

index=0
kernel="/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64"
index=1
kernel="/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.10-200.fc40.x86_64"
index=2
kernel="/boot/vmlinuz-6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64"
index=3
kernel="/boot/vmlinuz-0-rescue-6a0d0e8a953c43e682bd4f1a6e0143be"

Change the default kernel using index

Now we can change the default kernel by using the index number:

sudo grubby --set-default-index=1

Verify the default kernel

Verify that the right kernel has been set as default:

sudo grubby --default-title

The output will be the default kernel title:

Fedora Linux (6.11.10-200.fc40.x86_64) 40 (Workstation Edition)

I just related the issue because I was reading other topic with 6.11.11 issues.

Yes 6.13 I will test with my RPI5 when it is ready to install, it is still rc2 on kernel.org . Till then I just use the 6.11.10 kernel as a workaround and will test 6.12 when available.

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It might be added for other users that using 6.11.10 is not a long term solution because this kernel is no longer supported.

So if the update to 6.12.X does not solve the problem once any 6.12 has been pushed to stable, we need to actively evaluate the issue and likely file a bug report to ensure it gets solved :classic_smiley:

Good luck with 6.12 :classic_smiley:

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I think it is more mutter where makes trouble… as I said that I downgraded mutter and can work with the newer kernel now.

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Hard to foresee. It is also possible that a mutter update uses some new functions in the kernel, while these functions have a bug. If I get it right, the mutter update has not caused issues in 6.10.10. Hopefully, we will not need to evaluate that issue after 6.12 is in stable.

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Was it fully mutter or a Xorg vs Wayland thing possibly?

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I not changed any thing on the login. Since long I use Wayland only. On purpose I not changed anything.

Before I wrote this topic I tested twice to be sure if I can reproduce. I could reproduce.
Then I removed mutter , history you can see above. After that I tried to reproduce and I could not anymore. Login was normally.

Then I was upgrading to the 6.12 Kernel as proposed by chris.

$ sudo dnf history info 328
Transaction ID : 328
Begin time     : 2024-12-12 19:56:41
Begin rpmdb    : f924a422e8caed642b68963942e690f8a22a8756d855eddc712480ecb2aada4b
End time       : 2024-12-12 19:58:30
End rpmdb      : 6a23cfafd062c02ab5078cc3f73a647026d8743a594cb9619de8a6a74cc33f7f
User           : 1000 ***********
Status         : Ok
Releasever     : 40
Description    : dnf upgrade --enablerepo=updates-testing --refresh --advisory=FEDORA-2024-811cffc4ef
Comment        : 
Packages altered:
  Action   Package                                       Reason          Repository
  Install  kernel-modules-extra-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64 External User   updates-testing
  Install  kernel-modules-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64       External User   updates-testing
  Install  kernel-core-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64          External User   updates-testing
  Install  kernel-modules-core-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64  External User   updates-testing
  Install  kernel-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64               External User   updates-testing
  Upgrade  kernel-headers-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64       Dependency      updates-testing
  Upgrade  kernel-tools-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64         Weak Dependency updates-testing
  Upgrade  kernel-tools-libs-0:6.12.4-100.fc40.x86_64    Dependency      updates-testing
  Remove   kernel-0:6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64               User            @System
  Remove   kernel-core-0:6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64          User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-0:6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64       User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-core-0:6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64  User            @System
  Remove   kernel-modules-extra-0:6.11.8-200.fc40.x86_64 User            @System
  Replaced kernel-headers-0:6.11.3-200.fc40.x86_64       Dependency      @System
  Replaced kernel-tools-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64        Weak Dependency @System
  Replaced kernel-tools-libs-0:6.11.11-200.fc40.x86_64   Dependency      @System

Upgraded the mutter package and since then my computer works as before with kernel 6.11.10 while using also 6.11.11 and 6.12

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