2024-08-19 @ 16:00 UTC - Fedora 41 Blocker Review Meeting

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Hi folks! It’s time for another blocker review meeting. We have 1 proposed blocker and 1 proposed freeze exception for Beta, and 6 proposed blockers for Final.

Here is a handy link which should show you the meeting time in your local time.

The meeting will be on Matrix. Click the link above to join in a web client - you can authenticate with your FAS account - or use a dedicated client of your choosing.

If you have time this weekend, you can take a look at the proposed or accepted blockers before the meeting - the full lists can be found here.

Remember, you can also now vote on bugs outside of review meetings! If you look at the bug list in the blockerbugs app, you’ll see links labeled “Vote!” next to all proposed blockers and freeze exceptions. Those links take you to tickets where you can vote. This page has instructions on how exactly you do it. We usually go through the tickets shortly before the meeting and apply any clear votes, so the meeting will just cover bugs where there wasn’t a clear outcome in the ticket voting yet. THIS MEANS IF YOU VOTE NOW, THE MEETING WILL BE SHORTER!

We’ll be evaluating these bugs to see if they violate any of the Release Criteria and warrant the blocking of a release if they’re not fixed. Information on the release criteria for F40 can be found on the wiki.

For more information about the Blocker and Freeze exception process, check out these links:

And for those of you who are curious how a Blocker Review Meeting works - or how it’s supposed to go and you want to run one - check out the SOP on the wiki.

Have a good day and see you tomorrow!

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#blocker-review:fedoraproject.org: F41-blocker-review

Meeting started by @adamwill:fedora.im at 15:59:35 UTC

Meeting summary

  1. TOPIC:Roll Call (@adamwill:fedora.im, 15:59:39)
  2. TOPIC:Introduction (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:39)
    1. INFO: Our purpose in this meeting is to review proposed blocker and nice-to-have bugs and decide whether to accept them, and to monitor the progress of fixing existing accepted blocker and nice-to-have bugs. (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:44)
    2. INFO: We'll be following the process outlined at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:47)
    3. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/QA:SOP_Blocker_Bug_Meeting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:49)
    4. INFO: The bugs up for review today are available at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:52)
    5. LINK: http://qa.fedoraproject.org/blockerbugs/current (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:55)
    6. INFO: The criteria for release blocking bugs can be found at: (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:05:57)
    7. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Basic_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:00)
    8. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Beta_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:02)
    9. LINK: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_41_Final_Release_Criteria (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:04)
    10. INFO: for Beta, we have 1 proposed blocker and 2 proposed freeze exception issues (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:27)
    11. INFO: for Final, we have 6 proposed blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:06:40)
    12. INFO: František Zatloukal will secretarialize (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:15)
  3. TOPIC:Proposed Beta blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:27)
  4. TOPIC:(2305291) GRUB 2.12 generated grub.cfg does not work with GRUB 2.06 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:52)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305291 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:55)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1618 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:07:57)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, grub2, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:00)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+2,0,-0) (+imsedgar, +frantisekz) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:08:03)
    5. AGREED: 2305291 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted on the assumption that it also affects IoT and CoreOS (our release-blocking atomic builds). If so it's clearly a blocker per "The upgraded system must meet all release criteria", since the upgraded system doesn't boot (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:14:27)
  5. TOPIC:Proposed Beta freeze exception issues (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:14:55)
  6. TOPIC:(2305707) Gnome Files, Terminal, Text Editor taking 20s to launch in Live instance (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:00)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305707 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:02)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1619 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:05)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, gnome-shell, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:15:08)
    4. AGREED: 2305707 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is accepted as it's clearly annoying and cannot be fixed with an update (as it affects the live media) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:19:50)
  7. TOPIC:(2299284) toolbox: "Error: failed to get the Podman version" in Live instance (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:19:55)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2299284 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:19:58)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1612 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:20:01)
    3. INFO: Proposed Freeze Exceptions, podman, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:20:03)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: BetaBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+lruzicka) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:20:06)
    5. AGREED: 2299284 - AcceptedFreezeException (Beta) - this is an annoying problem that cannot be fixed with an update, as it affects live sessions (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:24:22)
  8. TOPIC:Proposed Final blockers (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:25:59)
  9. TOPIC:(2172868) [dnf5] dnf5 repoquery mixes up stdout and stderr (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:26:32)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2172868 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:26:35)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1559 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:26:37)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, dnf5, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:26:40)
    4. AGREED: 2172868 - RejectedBlocker (Final) - this is annoying, but we don't see anywhere it violates the release criteria. Please re-propose it with more details if there is a criteria violation we're missing (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:31:03)
  10. TOPIC:(2303813) When running 6.10 or later kernel, gnome-disks is partly nonfunctional (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:31:11)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2303813 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:31:14)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1616 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:31:17)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, gnome-disk-utility, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:31:19)
    4. AGREED: 2303813 - punt (delay decision) - this seems like a borderline case, and may be fixed by newer kernels. For now we'll punt it for further testing with newer kernel builds (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:49:27)
  11. TOPIC:(2278845) gnome-initial-setup: Choosing avatar results in SetIconFile call failed for unknown reason (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:53:48)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2278845 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:53:51)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1603 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:53:55)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, gnome-initial-setup, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:53:59)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-1) (+lruzicka, -kparal) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 16:54:02)
    5. AGREED: 2278845 - AcceptedBlocker (Final) - this is accepted as a violation of "the initial setup utility should withstand a basic functionality test" (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:46)
  12. TOPIC:(2283978) Raspberry Pi 4 automatically suspends when idle, claims to support suspend, but can't be woken up (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:01:58)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2283978 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:00)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1607 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:02)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, kernel, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:04)
    4. INFO: Ticket vote: FinalBlocker (+1,0,-0) (+kparal) (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:02:06)
    5. AGREED: 2283978 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a violation of "All known bugs that can cause corruption of user data must be fixed or documented at Common Issues". We note that fixing it may not be straightforward and it may have to be waived as hard to fix or documented and considered 'resolved' in that way (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:19:46)
  13. TOPIC:(2305763) Orca crashes on Fedora 41 Pre-beta due to a Python "AttributeError". (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:20:01)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2305763 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:20:05)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1620 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:20:08)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, orca, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:20:11)
    4. INFO: there is an ongoing ticket for adding explicit accessibility release criteria in https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/issue/785 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:26:19)
    5. AGREED: 2305763 - AcceptedBlocker (Beta) - this is accepted as a Beta (not Final) blocker as a conditional violation of all desktop-related criteria for GNOME for all people who need a screen reader (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:41)
  14. TOPIC:(2303624) Saving files not working in Google Chrome, Telegram, etc after updating xdg-desktop-portal-gnome to 47~beta-1.fc41 version (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:48)
    1. LINK: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2303624 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:50)
    2. LINK: https://pagure.io/fedora-qa/blocker-review/issue/1614 (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:54)
    3. INFO: Proposed Blocker, xdg-desktop-portal-gnome, NEW (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:28:58)
    4. AGREED: 2303624 - punt (delay decision) - we believe this may be fixed with the latest nautilus build, we will wait for input from the reporter before voting (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:37:59)
  15. TOPIC:Open floor (@adamwill:fedora.im, 17:38:06)


Meeting ended at 17:49:28 UTC

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