fastminja
(Jared Bain)
March 28, 2025, 7:51pm
1
what do i do to update
sudo dnf update
[sudo] password for
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
Package Arch Version Repository Size
Upgrading:
appstream-data noarch 41-11.fc41 updates 15.2 MiB
replacing appstream-data noarch 41-10.fc41 15.0 MiB
replacing appstream-data noarch 41-8.fc41 anaconda 14.4 MiB
Transaction Summary:
Upgrading: 1 package
Replacing: 2 packages
Total size of inbound packages is 15 MiB. Need to download 0 B.
After this operation, 14 MiB will be freed (install 15 MiB, remove 29 MiB).
Is this ok [y/N]: y
[1/1] appstream-data-0:41-11.fc41.noarch 100% | 0.0 B/s | 0.0 B | 00m00s
Already downloaded
[1/1] Total 100% | 0.0 B/s | 0.0 B | 00m00s
Running transaction
[1/5] Verify package files 100% | 34.0 B/s | 1.0 B | 00m00s
[2/5] Prepare transaction 100% | 28.0 B/s | 3.0 B | 00m00s
[3/5] Upgrading appstream-data-0:41-11.fc41.noarch 47% [========= ] | 23.8 MiB/s | 7.5 MiB | 00m00s
Segmentation fault
Check sudo dmesg | tail
and coredumctl to what code actually segv’ed.
What do these commands report?
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
March 28, 2025, 10:18pm
3
[ 9645.154005] sd 8:0:0:1: [sdc] Media removed, stopped polling
[ 9645.154880] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write Protect is off
[ 9645.154892] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode Sense: 21 00 00 00
[ 9645.154911] sd 8:0:0:1: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 9645.155601] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Write cache: disabled, read cache: enabled, doesn’t support DPO or FUA
[ 9645.182717] sdb: sdb1
[ 9645.182956] sd 8:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk
[ 9645.488971] FAT-fs (sdb1): Volume was not properly unmounted. Some data may be corrupt. Please run fsck.
[ 9856.484537] sdb: detected capacity change from 249737216 to 0
[ 9863.882869] usb 2-4: USB disconnect, device number 3
coredumctl
bash: coredumctl: command not found…
Sorry my typo coredumpctl
try that.
Also with the dmesg you must do it just after you see the error, so reproduce that error first.
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
March 29, 2025, 3:30pm
7
coredumpctl
TIME PID UID GID SIG COREFILE EXE SIZE
Mon 2025-03-17 08:50:31 EDT 3243 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/gnome-software 24.9M
Mon 2025-03-17 09:05:16 EDT 2749 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-software 86.3M
Mon 2025-03-17 09:23:51 EDT 21988 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/python3.11 29.1M
Mon 2025-03-17 17:01:48 EDT 2557 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 18.4M
Mon 2025-03-17 23:56:45 EDT 32382 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 26.9M
Tue 2025-03-18 17:14:28 EDT 2553 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 17M
Wed 2025-03-19 10:50:24 EDT 422215 0 0 SIGABRT inaccessible /usr/libexec/packagekitd -
Wed 2025-03-19 10:53:34 EDT 2823 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-software 30.5M
Thu 2025-03-20 00:28:47 EDT 3607 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/Xwayland 2.5M
Thu 2025-03-20 01:30:24 EDT 8115 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 78.2M
Thu 2025-03-20 01:30:45 EDT 16569 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 58.1M
Thu 2025-03-20 01:36:56 EDT 17927 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 71.8M
Thu 2025-03-20 10:38:57 EDT 2578 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 17.1M
Thu 2025-03-20 10:39:00 EDT 3570 1000 1000 SIGTRAP present /app/extra/chrome 166.4M
Thu 2025-03-20 14:06:30 EDT 2569 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 16.9M
Thu 2025-03-20 16:49:49 EDT 3665 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 19.8M
Thu 2025-03-20 17:23:13 EDT 2623 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 18.2M
Fri 2025-03-21 10:41:53 EDT 15343 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 9.7M
Fri 2025-03-21 10:41:54 EDT 14196 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-shell 16.9M
Sun 2025-03-23 13:59:46 EDT 4032 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 26.6M
Sun 2025-03-23 13:59:51 EDT 3963 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/Xwayland 2.5M
Sun 2025-03-23 18:19:08 EDT 170691 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 36.8M
Sun 2025-03-23 18:19:11 EDT 170645 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/Xwayland 2.5M
Mon 2025-03-24 11:51:41 EDT 3554 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 35M
Mon 2025-03-24 11:52:00 EDT 4626 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 24.7M
Mon 2025-03-24 11:52:42 EDT 5305 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /app/extra/chrome 25.6M
Tue 2025-03-25 14:25:55 EDT 2827 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/gnome-software 16.2M
Wed 2025-03-26 22:03:19 EDT 2835 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/bin/gnome-software 15M
Fri 2025-03-28 06:25:20 EDT 884694 0 0 SIGABRT inaccessible /usr/libexec/packagekitd -
Fri 2025-03-28 15:22:59 EDT 2804 1000 1000 SIGILL present /usr/bin/gnome-software 15.4M
Fri 2025-03-28 15:23:56 EDT 4064 0 0 SIGSEGV none /usr/bin/dnf5 -
Fri 2025-03-28 15:48:07 EDT 18675 0 0 SIGSEGV none /usr/bin/dnf5 -
Fri 2025-03-28 17:59:46 EDT 72454 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 31.8M
Fri 2025-03-28 18:00:05 EDT 88356 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 6.9M
Fri 2025-03-28 18:00:22 EDT 88596 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 7M
Fri 2025-03-28 18:00:38 EDT 88818 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 6.7M
Sat 2025-03-29 01:15:19 EDT 3505 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/bin/gnome-system-monitor 5M
Sat 2025-03-29 01:26:31 EDT 69169 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 173.3M
Sat 2025-03-29 01:26:52 EDT 73619 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 10M
Sat 2025-03-29 01:42:05 EDT 73798 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-miner-fs-3 176.5M
Sat 2025-03-29 01:59:19 EDT 1733 42 42 SIGSEGV inaccessible /usr/bin/gnome-shell -
Sat 2025-03-29 01:59:30 EDT 1628 0 0 SIGTRAP inaccessible /usr/sbin/gdm -
Sat 2025-03-29 02:03:13 EDT 1809 0 0 SIGABRT inaccessible /usr/libexec/packagekitd -
Sat 2025-03-29 11:26:46 EDT 11077 1000 1000 SIGILL present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 61.4M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:27:32 EDT 11542 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 58.7M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:32 EDT 11963 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 75.3M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:37 EDT 12575 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 13.5M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:40 EDT 12720 1000 1000 SIGABRT present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 8.6M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:48 EDT 12816 1000 1000 SIGILL present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 13.7M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:53 EDT 12968 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 14.4M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:55 EDT 13119 1000 1000 SIGILL present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 7M
Sat 2025-03-29 11:28:57 EDT 13221 1000 1000 SIGSEGV present /usr/libexec/tracker-extract-3 3.5M
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FYI I’m surprised that you have so many crashes on your system.
gnwiii
(George N. White III)
March 29, 2025, 7:10pm
11
Me too. Segmentation faults should be addressed right away: a) if they are caused by a software problem, other users could be affected, and b) they can be a sign of failing hardware. The crash appears to have been corrupt data can be a symptom of failing hardware.
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
March 30, 2025, 8:52am
12
yeah? why do you say that
isnt it like that for everyone
hopefully its just software
ill find out if its my hardware in the future sometime probly not anytime soon
when i build me another computer
when i built the computer i had no way of testing each part to make sure it was fine
ill probly just buy another computer that should work
without problems untill i build another
then ill know if its hardware
or if its more software
Segmentation faults have only occurred 2 or 3 times in the last 10 years for me.
No, seg faults are not common for everyone.
No it is not like for most people. I have only sen 3 this year, a rate of 1/month.
gnwiii
(George N. White III)
March 31, 2025, 12:08pm
16
Jared Bain:
ill find out if its my hardware in the future sometime probly not anytime soon
when i build me another computer
when i built the computer i had no way of testing each part to make sure it was fine
Home built computers can be tricky. It isn’t always easy to ensure that a) parts actually conform to advertised specs, and b) are suitable for purpose. It is tempting to reuse old cables, but (because “cables are evil”) careful builders use new cables.
Things you can try:
memory tests: They should be run for an extended period (e.g., over a weekend or multiple nights).
disconnect non-essential add-ons
check logs and core dumps: Problems with incorrect specs may produce error messages.
wiggle tests of cables
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
April 7, 2025, 6:02am
17
it was all new parts and cables
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
April 11, 2025, 4:09pm
18
I was in windows 11 updated everything was stable and everything then updated and just kept crashing
So it is partly the software
gnwiii
(George N. White III)
April 11, 2025, 6:10pm
19
Updates are generally more stressful than typical workloads, so hardware failures are more likely to be observed during and after updates.Also, hardware failure rates follow a “bathtub curve”: high infant mortality, a period of low failure rates, then increasing failure rates with old age.
We need data to understand why crashes occur.
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fastminja
(Jared Bain)
April 14, 2025, 7:01am
20
i try to report errors but i get problems everytime i try
fastminja
(Jared Bain)
April 14, 2025, 7:08am
21
i got another Segmentation fault
sudo rpm --rebuilddb
Illegal instruction