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Yesterday I get some strange problems with my Fedora. I used to update it every time when they’re coming (updates) and everything was normal, but that time, when I rebooted after update, (version Linux 6.17.4-300.fc43.x86_64) after using alt + shift combination as always my screen stuck. I was like, what? And then I tried to go settings to change bind… so my screen don’t wanted to answer. I considered that going to tty 'll be a good idea but that doesn’t work. I tried to change kernels and interfaces and that doesnt work too. Some time later I gave up and started using win + space, I went into Obsidian and tried to transfer a photo from my desktop, and my system froze, then the screen went black for 2 seconds, and the lock screen turned on (like after a reboot).

I don’t know what actually going on, I’m new to Linux (especially Fedora) and configure everything take to me a lot of time. I’ll be very happy if someone help me to fix this problems.
Can provide you any information if it helps, thanks!

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It sounds like your desktop environment crashed. Does journalctl -p notice --since=today show anything informative?

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It sounds like this bug in GNOME:

A commenter there was able to fix it by downgrading mutter to 49.0.

This looks like the latest 49.0-based rpm for Fedora 43, though I’m not a GNOME user so someone more involved with GNOME may know better.

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No it doesn’t, just information from not deleted VPN that I installed some time, I removed residual files and nothing happened.

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I’ll try it, ty

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So I tried to downgrade shell, but it says that “gnome-shell_86x64” is the oldest update and it doesn’t change anything. Any ideas?

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You could try downloading and installing the rpm that I linked to above, but I don’t know for sure that will fix it.

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I’m not sure that I’m using this command correctly, but it looks like there are several other packages that depend on the mutter package.

$ dnf repoquery --whatdepends mutter
Updating and loading repositories:
Repositories loaded.
gala-0:8.2.3^20250610.git42ab42a-1.fc42.i686
gala-0:8.2.3^20250610.git42ab42a-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-kiosk-0:48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-kiosk-0:48.0-3.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-0:48.0-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-shell-0:48.6-1.fc42.x86_64
gnome-tweaks-0:46.1-4.fc42.noarch
lumina-desktop-0:1.6.2-14.fc42.x86_64
mutter-devel-0:48.1-1.fc42.i686
mutter-devel-0:48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
mutter-devel-0:48.6-1.fc42.i686
mutter-devel-0:48.6-1.fc42.x86_64
mutter-tests-0:48.1-1.fc42.x86_64
mutter-tests-0:48.6-1.fc42.x86_64
perl-Tk-tests-0:804.036-18.fc41.x86_64
perl-Tk-tests-0:804.036-20.fc42.x86_64
wingpanel-0:8.0.3^20250611.git7990904-1.fc42.i686
wingpanel-0:8.0.3^20250611.git7990904-1.fc42.x86_64
xwayland-run-0:0.0.4-8.fc42.noarch

If so, you might not be able to downgrade the mutter package independently of those other packages. And since this problem is in the beta release (Fedora Linux 43 Beta), there won’t be any older packages in the Fedora Linux 43 repos. What I think might work is the following.

$ sudo dnf downgrade --releasever=42 mutter

But you should do that from a virtual terminal in multi-user mode and there are no guarantees (but since you are running the beta release, I guess you are OK with that).

Edit: Go ahead and try just downgrading that one mutter package first though. It is a minor version change (from 49.1 to 49.0), so it might work.

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That doesn’t worked, I tried, but dnf didn’t allow me to rewrite dependencies.

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If downgrading mutter requires downgrading a protected package, then yeah, you might be stuck. I wish it were easier to take snapshots of your root filesystem before upgrading to a new release. Unfortunately, it is not so easy.

You might have to make do with the Super+Space workaround until a newer version of the mutter package is available.

Did you try downloading just the mutter package to 49.0 (from Koji) and installing it with sudo dnf downgrade ./mutter-49.0-4.fc43.x86_64.rpm?

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Yeah, I tried this, but didn’t worked too. I think I can work with Super + Space, lets see if this fix itself after another update, thanks for trying to help me :wink:

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Installing test fix update helped me for a problem with alt + shift

After update nothing changed with Obsidian. I think this associated with “Ding Desktop Icons” extension, 'll try to fix it myself.

Thx everyone! (Especially P G <3)

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