Unstable Graphics on Fedora 33 with Kernels 5.10.9 and 5.10.10

I’m using KDE plasma; I don’t know how I would activate Plasma Wayland.

Anthony: don’t worry about trying to switch to wayland. it has its own set of issues beyond what we are experiencing since it is newer.

take care

I remember that there exists a option in the Bios where it is possible to dedicate an certain amount of memory for the integrated Graphic card. Instead of letting be on auto trying to dedicate maximum possible ram for the Graphic card. Probably this just would work in legacy mode?

Bruce and ‘ilikelinux’, thanks for the messages. ‘ilikelinux’, I didn’t see any such ability in the setup menu nor in the KDE system settings. I am still having problems, btw, with kernel 5.10.14. Perhaps there may be some command line wizardry that may help?

Depending on the gpu chipset and bios in your PC, there may be a way to control how much shared memory is used. The newer PCs typically have enuf RAM to not bother with this setting. My laptop doesn’t have this as an option. X86_64 machines that i have dont allow shared memory size adjustments.

Kernel 5.10.15 still acts up on my pc. Looking at kernel settings that are being suggested on arch forums. Be back in a few days with results.

Good deal, Bruce. I’ve only started with 5.10.15, but 5.10.14 was still acting up.

And I can confirm now that 5.10.15 is also acting up on my rig . .

One of my rigs has weird graphics dropouts and artifacts when i open Terminal on F33. A reboot tends to fix the issue, but not always. also, if I ignore it, an hour later it tends to be fixed on it’s own. The other 2 boxes also very rarely happens, but on my Asus X750JN, its everyday.

Welcome to ask fedora @willx750jn

Would be nice if you could make inxi -Gxx and inxi -xx in terminal to compare with the other users.

Here are my inxi reports. I have noticed this graphics glitch is also affecting other programs randomly.

Thanks

will@asus  ~  inxi -Gxx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: ASUSTeK
driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0416
Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 840M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau
v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1341
Device-3: Chicony USB2.0 HD UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo
bus ID: 3-10:5 chip ID: 04f2:b3d8
Display: x11 server: Fedora Project X.org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz s-dpi: 96
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2)
v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.4 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes

will@asus  ~  inxi -xx
CPU: Quad Core Intel Core i7-4710HQ (-MT MCP-)
speed/min/max: 3294/800/3500 MHz Kernel: 5.10.15-200.fc33.x86_64 x86_64
Up: 3m Mem: 1421.5/15887.2 MiB (8.9%) Storage: 3.92 TiB (0.7% used)
Procs: 322 Shell: Zsh 5.8 inxi: 3.1.08
will@asus  ~ 

To all interested, to keep you up to date, I just tried kernel 5.10.17 and my digital clock in the system tray immediately turned to hieroglyphics. I’ve re-installed 5.NINE.16 and locked it in place so updates won’t erase it. Will continue to try out new kernels though and keep you all in the loop. Has anyone heard any news anywhere of a fix in the works for this?

My system is on kernel-core-5.10.15-200 still. It was not upgraded.

As of yesterday, the problem apparently went away after following upgrades:

qsynth-0.9.1-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:13 PM MST
dump-0.4-0.46.b47.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:13 PM MST
stunnel-5.57-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:11 PM MST
foomatic-4.0.13-17.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:11 PM MST
libguestfs-tools-1.44.0-1.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:10 PM MST
hamlib-4.1-2.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:10 PM MST
tcpdump-4.99.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:59:09 PM MST
google-chrome-stable-88.0.4324.182-1.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:59 PM MST
gtk3-immodule-xim-3.24.25-2.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:48 PM MST
gnome-disk-utility-3.38.2-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:48 PM MST
audacity-2.4.2-4.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:46 PM MST
evolution-3.38.4-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:44 PM MST
evolution-langpacks-3.38.4-1.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:38 PM MST
evolution-data-server-3.38.4-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:36 PM MST
evolution-data-server-langpacks-3.38.4-1.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:35 PM MST
webkit2gtk3-2.30.5-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:34 PM MST
gtk3-3.24.25-2.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:32 PM MST
libusbx-1.0.24-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:31 PM MST
libpcap-1.10.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:31 PM MST
gtk-update-icon-cache-3.24.25-2.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:31 PM MST
perl-Sys-Guestfs-1.44.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:30 PM MST
libguestfs-tools-c-1.44.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:30 PM MST
libguestfs-xfs-1.44.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:29 PM MST
supermin-5.2.1-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:28 PM MST
libguestfs-1.44.0-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:28 PM MST
foomatic-db-4.0-70.20210209.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:27 PM MST
foomatic-db-ppds-4.0-70.20210209.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:20 PM MST
foomatic-db-filesystem-4.0-70.20210209.fc33.noarch Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:09 PM MST
webkit2gtk3-jsc-2.30.5-1.fc33.x86_64 Wed 17 Feb 2021 03:58:08 PM MST

So what triggered the “fix”? I am leaning towards libusbx but thats just a gut feel right now. I use several web browsers so the chrome update doesn’t seem to be the “Fix”. Been testing over 12 hours since yesterday without graphics issues with cpu loads up to 3.

Still testing… Anyone else see results like this?

My rig also seems to be fixed after yesterdays updates (haven’t seen 5.10.17 yet, still on 5.10.15. All graphical artifacts and weirdness seems to be resolved, albeit, no explanation from the responsible coder.

I thought the graphical artifacts and instability had been fixed, but it started again with the latest updates and kernel 5.10.16. I went back to 5.10.15 and the issues remain now (i.e. single apostrophe not displayed, sometimes only bottom half of letters and numbers displayed in Terminal, quick, momentary, screen flicker, etc).

Me to.

System:
  Kernel: 5.10.16-200.fc33.x86_64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc 
  v: 2.35-18.fc33) Desktop: Cinnamon 4.8.6 tk: GTK 3.24.25 wm: Muffin 4.8.1 
  dm: GDM 3.38.2.1, LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Fedora release 33 (Thirty Three) 
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: ASUSTeK product: X750JN v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  Mobo: ASUSTeK model: X750JN v: 1.0 serial: <filter> 
  UEFI: American Megatrends v: X750JN.206 date: 05/22/2019 
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 36.1 Wh condition: 36.4/36.4 Wh (100%) volts: 16.6/14.4 
  model: ASUS X550E26 type: Li-ion serial: N/A status: Not charging 
  Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M510 
  serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes 
  status: Discharging 
CPU:
  Info: Quad Core model: Intel Core i7-4710HQ bits: 64 type: MT MCP 
  arch: Haswell rev: 3 L1 cache: 256 KiB L2 cache: 6144 KiB 
  L3 cache: 6000 KiB 
  flags: avx avx2 lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx 
  bogomips: 39910 
  Speed: 798 MHz min/max: 800/3500 MHz volts: 1.2 V ext-clock: 100 MHz 
  Core speeds (MHz): 1: 798 2: 798 3: 798 4: 798 5: 798 6: 799 7: 798 8: 798 
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel 4th Gen Core Processor Integrated Graphics vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: i915 v: kernel bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:0416 
  Device-2: NVIDIA GM108M [GeForce 840M] vendor: ASUSTeK driver: nouveau 
  v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 10de:1341 
  Device-3: Chicony USB2.0 HD UVC WebCam type: USB driver: uvcvideo 
  bus ID: 3-10:5 chip ID: 04f2:b3d8 serial: <filter> 
  Display: server: Fedora Project X.org 1.20.10 driver: modesetting 
  unloaded: fbdev,vesa resolution: 1600x900~60Hz s-dpi: 96 
  OpenGL: renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics 4600 (HSW GT2) 
  v: 4.5 Mesa 20.3.4 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes 
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel Xeon E3-1200 v3/4th Gen Core Processor HD Audio 
  vendor: ASUSTeK driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:03.0 
  chip ID: 8086:0c0c 
  Device-2: Intel 8 Series/C220 Series High Definition Audio vendor: ASUSTeK 
  driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1b.0 chip ID: 8086:8c20 
  Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.10.16-200.fc33.x86_64 
Network:
  Device-1: Qualcomm Atheros AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter 
  vendor: AzureWave driver: ath9k v: kernel port: e000 bus ID: 04:00.0 
  chip ID: 168c:0032 
  IF: wlp4s0 state: up mac: <filter> 
  Device-2: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet 
  vendor: ASUSTeK driver: r8169 v: kernel port: d000 bus ID: 05:00.0 
  chip ID: 10ec:8168 
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  Device-3: IMC Networks Atheros AR3012 Bluetooth 4.0 Adapter type: USB 
  driver: btusb bus ID: 3-6:10 chip ID: 13d3:3362 serial: <filter> 
  IF-ID-1: virbr0 state: down mac: <filter> 
  IF-ID-2: virbr0-nic state: down mac: <filter> 
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 76.68 TiB used: 5.99 TiB (7.8%) 
  ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 type: USB model: GE8QT size: 238.50 GiB 
  serial: <filter> scheme: GPT 
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT1000MX500SSD1 size: 931.51 GiB 
  speed: 3.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 032 temp: 32 C scheme: GPT 
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Crucial model: CT1050MX300SSD1 size: 978.09 GiB 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: R070 temp: 31 C scheme: GPT 
  ID-4: /dev/sdc vendor: Mushkin model: MKNSSDRE2TB size: 1.82 TiB 
  speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 5C temp: 43 C scheme: GPT 
  ID-5: /dev/sdd type: USB model: External USB3.0 size: 14.55 TiB 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0301 scheme: GPT 
  ID-6: /dev/sde type: USB model: External USB3.0 size: 14.55 TiB 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0301 scheme: GPT 
  ID-7: /dev/sdf type: USB model: External USB3.0 size: 14.55 TiB 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0301 scheme: GPT 
  ID-8: /dev/sdg type: USB model: External USB3.0 size: 14.55 TiB 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0301 scheme: GPT 
  ID-9: /dev/sdh type: USB model: External USB3.0 size: 14.55 TiB 
  serial: <filter> rev: 0301 scheme: GPT 
RAID:
  Device-1: ztank type: zfs status: ONLINE size: 29.10 TiB free: 26.10 TiB 
  allocated: 2.95 TiB 
  Array-1: mirror status: ONLINE size: 14.50 TiB free: 13.10 TiB Components: 
  online: N/A 
  Array-2: mirror status: ONLINE size: 14.50 TiB free: 13.10 TiB Components: 
  online: N/A 
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 929.91 GiB used: 17.30 GiB (1.9%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/dm-0 
  ID-2: /boot size: 975.9 MiB used: 256.4 MiB (26.3%) fs: ext4 
  dev: /dev/sda2 
  ID-3: /home size: 929.91 GiB used: 17.30 GiB (1.9%) fs: btrfs 
  dev: /dev/dm-0 
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 4.00 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100 
  dev: /dev/zram0 
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 6280.4 C mobo: N/A 
  Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 3400 
Info:
  Processes: 446 Uptime: 2h 42m Memory: 15.51 GiB used: 2.96 GiB (19.1%) 
  Init: systemd v: 246 runlevel: 5 target: graphical.target Compilers: 
  gcc: 10.2.1 Packages: 2437 rpm: 2432 flatpak: 5 Shell: Zsh (sudo) v: 5.8 
  running in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.1.08 
 will@asus  ~ 
This rig is practically unusable with the graphical artifacts and and un-displayable in general. Constant dropouts and poor display with numerous dropouts and insertion of desktop image into active windows.

When I first started having these problems, I found that my previously working kernels had already been erased by the update processes, and I had to research how to reinstall my last working kernel. You may already know how to re-install and lock in the old kernels, but if you don’t, check out the solution at How do I install an old kernel? and How to boot an earlier kernel on Fedora - Fedora Magazine . Obviously, we have to keep on trying the new kernels, but this will keep you running until we get a permanent solution.

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Hi, back from weather and life distractions. found the following reading instructive:

I applied i915.mitigations=off per above link, things are much better than in the past.

There is an indication a fix may eventually propagate into the different distros like fedora.

I am curious if others here see any improvement.

Thanks, Bruce. I have re-booted into Linux 5.10.17-200.fc33.x86_64 x86_64 with i915.mitigations=off. I’ll let you know how I do with it.

I’ve tried the i915.mitigations=off with 5.10.17 and 5.10.16, but continue to have problems. Most recently while typing this on 5.10.16 my graphics restarted. Hence, I’m going back to 5.9.16 for the time being. Thanks, Bruce, for your research and keeping us in the loop.