Thunderbird flatpak downgraded automatically!? | v115 -> v128 -> v115

joeyjonnson · July 17, 2024, 12:42pm

I woke up this morning and decided to check for updates in Software app. I noticed a few, plus system updates so ran them. I remember seeing Thunderbird reported something weird like ‘v128 [arrowright] v115’. I am making that up but I remember two numbers and the left hand one was a higher number than right hand one.

I thought it was odd but carried on, assuming Software updates never go backwards so it must be some weird anomaly.

After rebooting, after updates done, I get this when I open Thunderbird…

I’m now confused and worried I screwed up my Thunderbird, in which is 20 years of email. Hoping someone can allay my fears and perhaps advise what I should do?
thanks

PS I have the flathub flatpak of TB installed

augenauf · July 17, 2024, 1:12pm

This is the perfect reminder to check your backups…

Was there a glitch at Thunderbird/Mozilla that enabled updates from 115 to v.128 ESR? I found 1907540 - Thunderbird autoupdates to version 128 esr which is not compatible with macOS 10.13
Officially, v128 is only available as direct download on thunderbird.net, but not yet in the distro’s or available as automatic update. Apparently, there was a small window of automatic updates, which you hit.

If you’d use your distro’s curated and tested rpm, this would not have happened.

I think you will have to wait for Thunderbird on Flathub to be updated to v. 128 to be able to use your profile again. In the meantime, create a new profile and sync your IMAP servers. Anything stores in local folders will be available again, when TB128 arrives as flatpak on flathub.

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:34pm

@joeyjonnson Hey man, Do you have your Thunderbird back up up to date ? Just to make sure.

I’ll go poking around and see what I can dig up.

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:36pm

So is the Flatpak update bugged?

augenauf · July 17, 2024, 1:40pm

Looks like they caught the mistake and disabled the auto-update to v128 again. Some people who updated their systems at the wrong moment got v128 …

see 1907540 - Thunderbird autoupdates to version 128 esr which is not compatible with macOS 10.13

Thunderbird 128 Nebula FAQ | Thunderbird Help says: “[…] Thunderbird 128.0esr is the same release channel as Thunderbird 115, only the name has changed”.

I think they messed it up…

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:46pm

I just tried it, and it did the same for me.

Unlike @joeyjonnson I have no important info there, and was about to do:

howto

Review Flatpak versions for downgrade example Thunderbird

flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.mozilla.Thunderbird


Thunderbird - Thunderbird is a free and open source email, newsfeed, chat, and
calendaring client

        ID: org.mozilla.Thunderbird
       Ref: app/org.mozilla.Thunderbird/x86_64/stable
      Arch: x86_64
    Branch: stable
   Version: 115.13.0
   License: MPL-2.0
Collection: org.flathub.Stable
  Download: 92.1 MB
 Installed: 269.9 MB
   Runtime: org.freedesktop.Platform/x86_64/23.08
       Sdk: org.freedesktop.Sdk/x86_64/23.08

    Commit: c2e09fc595198cf5c467ddad1fab56c0be512758584e16c3b933f2410968306a
    Parent: 2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-07-16 18:58:52 +0000
   History: 

    Commit: 2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-07-11 18:18:41 +0000

    Commit: ed949ecc2d7901cb8688ecfbf0f8227a243d09fcdf4824f84fa825da5f695f8e
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-06-22 19:17:33 +0000

    Commit: 5ce36f19a5453f807ac1fd985ed84bdc4a91d89e7325a1d87ffa95cb8d775035
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-06-19 01:27:07 +0000

    Commit: eb0291af27f2bc702c84e44e33e41fe65aa7714cbf61519ec7d54d14116fe786
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-04-18 17:25:49 +0000

    Commit: 0545a0325af67dd38349ebac440d24a699faa2ea1b6c7051fdffedc9633e9cf4
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-04-18 17:04:32 +0000

    Commit: de103d59b2b3d1b58500ffd487fc3463b4ea3cfe6c2bd4bd6ec273c9c5c2be49
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-04-16 19:34:15 +0000

    Commit: 435ce2bf41f255e082ffeafde363ff9ff1ff1decf7555f4f735c60037f6e12e7
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-04-16 19:18:21 +0000

Point back to the previous release. . .

I think going back to:

 Commit: 2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird
      Date: 2024-07-11 18:18:41 +0000

Would be the safest thing to do for a while. . .

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:49pm

Added mozilla

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:49pm

Added thunderbird

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:50pm

Added flatpak

augenauf · July 17, 2024, 1:56pm

This is really unfortunate, since Mozilla released v128 in beta quality. If you look at the bug list, it’s full of known bugs.
This example illustrates the potential danger of flatpak usage from 3rd party. If TB was installed as rpm, this would have never happened.

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 1:57pm

I’m back to normal

Downgrade Thunderbird Flatpak to different release

howto

So anyone encountering this with the Flatpak going down to version 115, reverting the update to this commit will get you back to normal

flatpak update --commit=2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993 org.mozilla.Thunderbird

Here is a more verbose output:

flatpak update --commit=2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993 org.mozilla.Thunderbird 
Looking for updates…

New org.mozilla.Thunderbird permissions:
    devices



        ID                               Branch          Op          Remote           Download
 1. [✓] org.mozilla.Thunderbird          stable          u           flathub          96.4 MB / 99.1 MB

Updates complete.

guiltydoggy · July 17, 2024, 2:15pm

There is a suggestion in this bug report that you may want to revert the org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale as well.

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 2:21pm

flatpak remote-info --log flathub org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale
        ID: org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale
       Ref: runtime/org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale/x86_64/stable
      Arch: x86_64
    Branch: stable
Collection: org.flathub.Stable
  Download: 42.6 MB
 Installed: 47.0 MB

    Commit: bb4786302fed0bd129ea8e7cd6593dbc77f1584d6353aefa39283fbebc5b26c7
    Parent: cbb56c7054d2893acf77b5cdfd0adc0588adc090edb49a92d79ac6e8f7983ad4
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale
      Date: 2024-07-16 18:58:51 +0000
   History: 

    Commit: cbb56c7054d2893acf77b5cdfd0adc0588adc090edb49a92d79ac6e8f7983ad4
   Subject: Export org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale
      Date: 2024-07-11 18:18:40 +0000

flatpak update --commit=cbb56c7054d2893acf77b5cdfd0adc0588adc090edb49a92d79ac6e8f7983ad4 org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale

Verbose output

flatpak update --commit=cbb56c7054d2893acf77b5cdfd0adc0588adc090edb49a92d79ac6e8f7983ad4 org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale
Looking for updates…


        ID                                       Branch           Op           Remote           Download
 1. [✓] org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale           stable           u            flathub          1.2 MB / 8.2 MB

Updates complete.

jandemus · July 17, 2024, 3:44pm

Thanks hammerhead, it’s working again.

joeyjonnson · July 17, 2024, 3:50pm

Thanks for replies.

Backups - I still don’t have them running. Life’s been nuts for past few weeks, but it’s my highest priority for computer stuff now

I don’t really follow the discussion above. I do get there was a screw up causing this to happen to quite a few people, found two links referring but can’t really follow what i should actually DO to resolve it!

As for …

I don’t follow that, no idea how to create a profile, never have before. I just installed and used. I’d just like to open TB and get my emails again

Happy to try steps to bring about that, but so many tips/ideas on bugzilla, i just don’t know what to do

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 4:14pm

Hey man, it’s basically 2 commands. I fixed my setup like this :

flatpak update --commit=2151b1e101f1266d135040c142f4c36a7e3373dc772e75a509a38efc39ded993 org.mozilla.Thunderbird

when done copy this.

flatpak update --commit=cbb56c7054d2893acf77b5cdfd0adc0588adc090edb49a92d79ac6e8f7983ad4 org.mozilla.Thunderbird.Locale

and that’s it ! Excuse the linewrapping, it’s just 1 command each.

joeyjonnson · July 17, 2024, 4:24pm

Wow. Here goes! THANK YOU

joeyjonnson · July 17, 2024, 4:26pm

Oh My, you’re a gem.

Had to add sudo but ran both and now TB opens. I am so grateful you’re here!

joeyjonnson · July 17, 2024, 5:48pm

Ha, nearly made the same damn mistake again!

hamrheadcorvette · July 17, 2024, 6:36pm

If this becomes an inconvenience for you. We can mask the update of Thunderbird.

How to freeze a Flatpak update ex: Thunderbird

howto

flatpak mask org.mozilla.Thunderbird

The Gnome Software Center GUI will still display an available update but will not update the application. You can remove the mask when you are comfortable with the next builds.

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