As firewalld and btrfs are both included in F43 it would make sense to also include the GUI firewalld-config and btrfs-assistant. I understand that it is cool to keep the foot print as small as possible but a usable system should include som basic configuration software. Is there a condidate list of software to (not) include in the basic distro?
Why do you think that a Fedora system is unusable without these two packages?
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On firewall-config, of course it’s possible to configure firewalld with firewall-cmd command line interface, but if a graphical interface (DE) is installed, isn’t it expected that there will be some GUI tools present to help users configure firewall?
If maintainers are in the habit of making use of software as hard as possible you probably are right.
I asked a question, I did not make a statement, so I am not sure what you think I am right about. You implied that the system is unusable without these two applications and I wanted to understand your perspective.
From my point of view, both are optional:
- firewalld-config: the default Fedora firewall zone (‘FedoraWorkstation’, at least on Workstation and KDE, don’t know if the Budgie spin uses it, too) blocks access to all privileged ports and allows access to all ports >1024 (and a few other privileged services). Anyone who knows enough about firewalls to make meaningful changes to this can easily do it with
firewall-cmdor install the package if they want a GUI. Anybody else should not mess with it, IMO. - btrfs-assistant: There are people who install their system on ext4, xfs, or some other filesystem. For them, the application is pretty much useless. And not all btrfs users use snapshots, either. Again, btrfs users who want to use snapshots and want to do it with this application can easily install it, why have it on everybody’s system?
In any case, I doubt asking for these applications in here will have any effect, you would probably need to address this to the maintainers of the Budgie spin.
If you think they should be included in the budgie spin, you could open a bug with the teams issue tracker. However, I am not sure whether that makes sense. I doubt most people need either of those tools. The defaults of btrfs are probably fine for most people, or they do not care enough to learn about it and configure it. If they do, installing the tool is likely the easiest bit of the journey. If you have compelling use cases, that might be reconsidered, but I think you should present why those tools are needed.
FWIW, the KDE edition does include firewalld-config by default.