Making Atomi Kinoite more Development ready out of the box

how we can make Atomic variants more development ready out of the box?

there is really ood tools already to use podman and toolbox with flatpaks minimal layering as it is made for container work

i see more and more talk and posts with blogs and videos are only Focussing on Gaming on linux, Gaming on Immutable systems… But where is Developers and security enthuasist.

i see atomics are really good for everyhting by tools just how we can implement things to work as should and meant to use.

toolbx is default with podman, but there is so much things to onsider to make those atually viable without layering.

i have been using exploring and wanting to use as daily developing enviroment Kinoite/silerblue and there is always the hassle to actually set things to work without layering IDE/Editors especially if using multiple containers on difrent workflows and for now VScode is only that actually has some working hacks with wrappers to achieve that and using VScode is not good option

Kinoite shipped with Kate perfect combo already, but missing Containers support/plugins to make it viable. NeoVim needs layering after that it is good option on again, but not for everyones use

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so solution is to go out from fedora well thats interesting

also aurora with dev stuff is 7GB iso download already and it has brew and so many other stuff not needed

why not simple make toolbox integration better and done you have minimal Fedora with default fedora experience and working flatpaks and integrations

I agree that Aurora is bloated. But brew is not installed by default, ujust is very useful (and needed on all Fedora variants), distrobox is just the better toolbx, the motd is nice and welcoming.

The ISO file doesnt represent it’s size. It contains the entire OS as an installable OCI image, while the Fedora atomic desktop ISOs download them from the internet afaik.

This is simply because bootable containers are not nearly as efficient as OSTree yet.

I use Kinoite with a ton of layers myself.

The problem is that you dont want to be opinionated and need a base image that works for all.

Aurora is just a downstream of Kinoite.

If you tell us exactly what is missing with doable steps, we can discuss

opinioins are always welcome what i want is to make defaults better not just for me as overall…

as i try to keep base default makes it more what i want and think is meant to be used. Flatpaks are main apps and then using containers for what i cant achive as flatapaks etc

main workflow already works on video,photo editing with 3D stuff and what i am missing is actually simple integration or way to use for now on Kinoite with kate editor installed as flatpak to connect containers since i run multiple containers on difrent projects and depencies.

i know this is easy wrapper and overrides on VScode, but personal thoughts using Microsoft products are now on the phase that i avoid all of them GitHub is only because bugreports anymore and want to actually support default shipped apps as much as possible

if i can somehow make Kate to connect and detect and see conatainers that are created with toolbox/podman problems are actually solved kate is awsome Editor already only i havent found the way yet since it is missing dev containers support

my main idealogy is just install distro add software connect and work quick and easy minimal hassle and hacks and stuff

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This would be 100% KDE then. Podman and docker are kinda compatible so this isnt Fedora specific