Machine fails to boot on kernels greater than 6.9.x | F40 |

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Bios is up to date.
Attempted 6.9.7, 6.9.8, and the 6.10 rc
None of them booted to the point any logs were produced.
Removing “rhgb quiet” from the kernel arguments just shows “booting command list”

Removed and re-installed the 6.8.10 kernel and that booted fine post re-install.

System:
  Kernel: 6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 2.41-37.fc40
  Desktop: GNOME v: 46.3.1 tk: GTK v: 3.24.42 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
    Distro: Fedora Linux 40 (Workstation Edition)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Gigabyte product: AX370-Gaming v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Gigabyte model: AX370-Gaming-CF serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: American Megatrends LLC. v: F53a date: 04/11/2024
CPU:
  Info: quad core model: AMD Ryzen 5 1500X bits: 64 type: MT MCP arch: Zen
    rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 2 MiB L3: 16 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1563 high: 2007 min/max: 1550/3500 boost: enabled cores:
    1: 1374 2: 1550 3: 1550 4: 1377 5: 1550 6: 1550 7: 2007 8: 1550
    bogomips: 55999
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3
Graphics:
  Device-1: AMD Ellesmere [Radeon RX 470/480/570/570X/580/580X/590]
    vendor: XFX Pine driver: amdgpu v: kernel arch: GCN-4 pcie: speed: 8 GT/s
    lanes: 16 ports: active: DP-1,HDMI-A-1 empty: DP-2,DP-3,DVI-D-1
    bus-ID: 0a:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:67df temp: 52.0 C
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.0
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: gpu: amdgpu display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: DP-1 model: AOC 2460G4 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 92 diag: 609mm (24")
  Monitor-2: HDMI-A-1 model: Asus VS239 res: 1920x1080 dpi: 96
    diag: 584mm (23")
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.1.2 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
    direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon RX 580 Series (radeonsi polaris10
    LLVM 18.1.6 DRM 3.57 6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64) device-ID: 1002:67df
    display-ID: :0.0
  API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Audio:
  Device-1: AMD Ellesmere HDMI Audio [Radeon RX 470/480 / 570/580/590]
    vendor: XFX Pine driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s
    lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0a:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:aaf0
  Device-2: AMD Family 17h HD Audio vendor: Gigabyte driver: snd_hda_intel
    v: kernel pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 0c:00.3 chip-ID: 1022:1457
  API: ALSA v: k6.8.11-300.fc40.x86_64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.0.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
    4: pw-jack type: plugin
Network:
  Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
    vendor: Gigabyte driver: r8169 v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1
    port: f000 bus-ID: 05:00.0 chip-ID: 10ec:8168
  IF: enp5s0 state: down mac: <filter>
  Device-2: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie:
    speed: 5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 09:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723
  IF: wlp9s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 1-13:5 chip-ID: 8087:0029
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 0 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 5 TiB used: 774.23 GiB (15.1%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: SSD 960 EVO 500GB
    size: 465.76 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 41.9 C
  ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Western Digital model: WD40EZRZ-22GXCB0
    size: 3.64 TiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
  ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Western Digital model: WD10EZEX-08WN4A0
    size: 931.51 GiB speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter>
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 50 GiB used: 16.9 GiB (33.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/nvme0n1p3
  ID-2: /boot size: 973.4 MiB used: 266.6 MiB (27.4%) fs: ext4
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p2
  ID-3: /boot/efi size: 598.8 MiB used: 19 MiB (3.2%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
  ID-4: /home size: 414.17 GiB used: 277.65 GiB (67.0%) fs: btrfs
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p4
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 43.9 C mobo: 30.0 C gpu: amdgpu temp: 53.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): cpu: 0 fan-1: 0 fan-3: 0 gpu: amdgpu fan: 2999
  Power: 12v: N/A 5v: N/A 3.3v: 3.36 vbat: 3.31
Info:
  Memory: total: 16 GiB available: 15.53 GiB used: 1.71 GiB (11.0%)
  Processes: 397 Power: uptime: 1m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 255
    target: graphical (5) default: graphical
  Packages: pm: flatpak pkgs: 25 Compilers: gcc: 14.1.1 Shell: Bash
    v: 5.2.26 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.34
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Removed audio, bluetooth, flatpak, gnome, intel, pipewire, radeon

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Do I need to carry around a Live USB if I update ? This is my only machine right now :exclamation:

Can you produce journalctl -k -p err if it’s too long you can add | fpaste for us to have a look.

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Added f40

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It doesn’t get that far, all of the boots are from 6.8.11

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Would you consider trying, 1 or ther other? so once with rhgb and once with quiet only? Sound weird but worth the try? Maybe adding single to the kernel line ?

A user recently had a similar situation and this helped in getting to the desktop and pulling logs.

I don’t know if going as far as loglevel=debug will help here.

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Tried removing rhbg and quiet individually, single, , init=/usr/bin/bash, nomodeset and loglevel=debug and never made it past “booting command list” on 6.9.7

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There are only a few other things I know to try from the kernel line :

  • acpi=off
  • noapic
  • nolapic
  • irqpoll
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It will boot with acpi=noirq :sweat_smile:
Will have to see if that causes any additional issues.
Thanks for poking me in the right direction.

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Is this Bug worthy ?

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Added workstation

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Added acpi

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Removed workstation

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Quoting: What are the “acpi” and “noapic” kernel boot options? (2019): “… many hardware platforms ship with buggy or out-of-specification ACPI firmware which can cause any number of unspecified problems.”

ACPI bug reports should go to the vendor (after checking for newer firmware).

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Hello all,
Just for the notes, I also have a first gen Ryzen (1400), a similar gfx card (AMD RX550) and the same boot issue with kernels 6.9+ (need acpi=noirq), but a different motherboard vendor (Asus, not Gigabyte).

inxi -b output

System:
Host: JensPC Kernel: 6.10.5-200.fc40.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: KDE Plasma v: 6.1.4 Distro: Fedora Linux 40 (Forty)
Machine:
Type: Desktop Mobo: ASUSTeK model: PRIME B350-PLUS v: Rev X.0x
serial: UEFI: American Megatrends v: 6203
date: 07/27/2023
CPU:
Info: quad core AMD Ryzen 5 1400 [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1662
min/max: 1550/3200
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Lexa PRO [Radeon 540/540X/550/550X / RX 540X/550/550X]
driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Device-2: Quanta FV TouchCam V1 driver: uvcvideo type: USB
Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.20.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.2
compositor: kwin_wayland driver: X: loaded: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa dri: radeonsi gpu: amdgpu resolution:
1: 1920x1080 2: 1920x1080
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.5 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.1.6 renderer: AMD
Radeon RX 550 / 550 Series (radeonsi polaris12 LLVM 18.1.6 DRM 3.57
6.10.5-200.fc40.x86_64)
Network:
Device-1: Realtek RTL8111/8168/8211/8411 PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet
driver: r8169
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 5.75 TiB used: 2.62 TiB (45.6%)
Info:
Memory: total: 32 GiB available: 31 GiB used: 7.96 GiB (25.7%)
Processes: 430 Uptime: 28m Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.34

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For systems shipped with Windows, ACPI issues can be addressed using the “OSI string” value for Windows.

See: How to Choose the Proper ACPI Kernel Argument describes the use of acpi_osi='OSI String' where the OSI String is chosen to match the Windows version. A footnote has:

apci_osi=Linux can be used in newer (late 2019 and later) Asus laptops to fix an issue where the external HDMI port is not working.

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Thanks for the hint.
I updated to a Ryzen 5800X now and the issue is gone. (BIOS version stayed the same.)

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Hi all ,

I am facing the same issue on surface laptop 4 that was originally shipped with windows 10.
Please advise by knowing I am new in linux world

Below is the content of my /etc/default/grub.

GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR="$(sed 's, release .*$,,g' /etc/system-release)"
GRUB_DEFAULT=saved
GRUB_DISABLE_SUBMENU=true
GRUB_TERMINAL_OUTPUT="console"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="resume=UUID=ddfe6936-6882-49af-8a42-85d84d232ef5 rhgb quiet"
GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"
GRUB_ENABLE_BLSCFG=true
GRUB_SAVEDEFAULT=true

And the output of ‘inxi -Fzxx’

System:
  Kernel: 6.9.12-200.fc40.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc
    v: 2.41-37.fc40
  Desktop: GNOME v: 47.2 tk: GTK v: 3.24.43 wm: gnome-shell dm: GDM
    Distro: Fedora Linux 41 (Workstation Edition)
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: Microsoft product: Surface Laptop 4
    v: 124I:00055T:000M:0200000B:05U:00 serial: <superuser required> Chassis:
    type: 9 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Microsoft model: Surface Laptop 4 serial: <superuser required>
    part-nu: Surface_Laptop_4_1958:1959 UEFI: Microsoft v: 3.350.140
    date: 05/02/2023
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT1 charge: 42.1 Wh (100.0%) condition: 42.1/45.8 Wh (91.9%)
    volts: 8.5 min: 7.6 model: SMP 1087273011 serial: <filter> status: full
CPU:
  Info: 6-core model: AMD Ryzen 5 Microsoft Surface Edition bits: 64
    type: MT MCP arch: Zen 2 rev: 1 cache: L1: 384 KiB L2: 3 MiB L3: 8 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1504 min/max: 400/4008 cores: 1: 1504 2: 1504 3: 1504
    4: 1504 5: 1504 6: 1504 7: 1504 8: 1504 9: 1504 10: 1504 11: 1504 12: 1504
    bogomips: 52705
  Flags: avx avx2 ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 sse4a ssse3 svm
Graphics:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Renoir [Radeon Vega Series /
    Radeon Mobile Series] vendor: Microsoft driver: amdgpu v: kernel
    arch: GCN-5 pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 ports: active: eDP-1
    empty: DP-1,DP-2,DP-3 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 1002:1636 temp: 42.0 C
  Device-2: Microsoft Surface Camera Front driver: uvcvideo type: USB
    rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3-3:2 chip-ID: 045e:0990
  Display: wayland server: X.org v: 1.21.1.14 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.4
    compositor: gnome-shell driver: X: loaded: N/A unloaded: modesetting
    alternate: fbdev,vesa gpu: amdgpu display-ID: 0
  Monitor-1: eDP-1 model: Sharp LQ135P1JX51 res: 2256x1504 dpi: 201
    diag: 343mm (13.5")
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 vendor: amd mesa v: 24.2.8 glx-v: 1.4 es-v: 3.2
    direct-render: yes renderer: AMD Radeon Graphics (radeonsi renoir LLVM
    19.1.0 DRM 3.57 6.9.12-200.fc40.x86_64) device-ID: 1002:1636
    display-ID: :0.0
  API: EGL Message: EGL data requires eglinfo. Check --recommends.
Audio:
  Device-1: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD/ATI] Renoir Radeon High Definition
    Audio driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 03:00.1 chip-ID: 1002:1637
  Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] ACP/ACP3X/ACP6x Audio Coprocessor
    driver: N/A pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16 bus-ID: 03:00.5 chip-ID: 1022:15e2
  Device-3: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 17h/19h/1ah HD Audio
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel pcie: speed: 8 GT/s lanes: 16
    bus-ID: 03:00.6 chip-ID: 1022:15e3
  API: ALSA v: k6.9.12-200.fc40.x86_64 status: kernel-api
  Server-1: JACK v: 1.9.22 status: off
  Server-2: PipeWire v: 1.2.7 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
    status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX200 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel pcie: speed: 5 GT/s
    lanes: 1 bus-ID: 02:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:2723
  IF: wlp2s0 state: up mac: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Device-1: Intel AX200 Bluetooth driver: btusb v: 0.8 type: USB rev: 2.0
    speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 3-4:3 chip-ID: 8087:0029
  Report: btmgmt ID: hci0 rfk-id: 1 state: up address: <filter> bt-v: 5.2
    lmp-v: 11
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 953.87 GiB used: 166.56 GiB (17.5%)
  ID-1: /dev/nvme0n1 vendor: Samsung model: MZ9LQ1T0HBLB-00B00
    size: 953.87 GiB speed: 31.6 Gb/s lanes: 4 serial: <filter> temp: 26.9 C
Partition:
  ID-1: / size: 53.84 GiB used: 36.07 GiB (67.0%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/nvme0n1p5
  ID-2: /boot/efi size: 259.5 MiB used: 46.6 MiB (18.0%) fs: vfat
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p1
Swap:
  ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 8 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: 100
    dev: /dev/zram0
  ID-2: swap-2 type: partition size: 2 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) priority: -2
    dev: /dev/nvme0n1p7
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 61.6 C mobo: N/A gpu: amdgpu temp: 42.0 C
  Fan Speeds (rpm): N/A
Info:
  Memory: total: 16 GiB note: est. available: 15.07 GiB used: 8.89 GiB (59.0%)
  Processes: 433 Power: uptime: 1h 39m wakeups: 0 Init: systemd v: 256
    target: graphical (5) default: graphical
  Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm pm: flatpak pkgs: 25
    Compilers: gcc: 14.2.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.2.32 running-in: gnome-terminal
    inxi: 3.3.36