Long-term Fedora install suddenly started freezing multiple times a day after package upgrade

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I have a Lenovo P16s system that has been running Fedora for the past ~3 years. After running a package upgrade Monday this week (2026-03-09) I now get complete system lockups/freezes multiple times a day. The system does not recover and I end up having to do a hard power off.

On one or two occasions there has been a gradual onset and I have been able to see the system load creep up before the system becomes unresponsive but most of the time it just freezes. I can’t change windows or move the cursor.

❯ dnf history info 147
Transaction ID : 147
Begin time     : 2026-03-09 16:14:22
Begin rpmdb    : 8bb2ece4b3bbf42e8689719a12fe45c7a476c5663751225ec7ab20f2b37b4ffb
End time       : 1970-01-01 00:00:00
End rpmdb      :
User           : 1002 Robin Björklin <rbjorklin>
Status         : Started
Releasever     : 43
Description    : dnf upgrade --assumeyes
Comment        :
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Try watching temperatures along with load – this has the profile of a temperature driven failure. You should also check for dust accumulation in the fan and cooling ducts.

It may be helpful to open a terminal and start journalctl --no-hostname --follow when the system load or temperatures start creeping up. There may also be useful details in the journal from boots that froze. You should check for vendor firmware updates so you aren’t being bitten by a solved issue.

5 years is around the time the “bathtub” curve of failure rates starts to rise, so if you don’t see any explanation in the journal, checking drive health and running RAM tests should be the next step.

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See if you can upgrade your kernel, we had a similar problem earlier this week and a kernel upgrade fixed it.

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That was my first thought, too. If the laptop is five years old, the thermal paste may have dried out or suffered pump-out.

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One can easily measure CPU temps with btop and prob other software based monitoring tools to check that.

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This was the first thing I did. There were some upgrades but the issue has reoccurred after firmware upgrades.

This is a good point. Will keep an eye on it and get a can of compressed air to clean out the fan and replace the thermal paste.

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Couple of updates here:

  • It seems I misremembered and my computer is only ~3 years old with a Ryzen 7 6850U CPU.
  • Cleaning out the fan with a can of pressurized air and replacing the thermal paste did nothing

I eventually found my way to the Arch wiki where I find some good info on lockups with AMD CPUs. I’m currently running with idle=nomwait, processor.max_cstate=5 which I’m not sure helped fully but improved the situation. In the end I disabled c-states entirely through UEFI/BIOS and I’ve now been freeze free for the last two days.

EDIT: to me this indicates that there has been a regression introduced recently as I was running okay before my upgrade on Monday last week (2026-03-09).

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And the circus is back on. My system refused to boot today for about 3h. I got a few, what seemed like, soft lockups to me where I can still press “enter” during boot and newlines get printed but the boot process just stalls indefinitely. I also got one hard lockup where the system was entirely frozen and I had to do a hard poweroff.

What eventually got the system to boot was me unplugging all peripherals before powering on and then plugging them in after logging in. This might just have been random chance however. I’ll be trying my luck again tomorrow I guess…

For what it’s worth my laptop has a hardware diagnostic suite built-in as part of UEFI and I successfully ran through:

  • 7 min quick check of everything
  • 1 hour of various memory tests
  • 10 min CPU stress test

based on this sample the hardware seems like it might be fine?

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Boot your system press esc button to enter grub menu select latest kernel press button ‘e’ to edit it and after rhgb quiet add ‘3’ now do ctrl+x to boot kernel .You will got terminal based screen login. With your user name and password entry and run sudo dnf update --refresh to get newest kernel and rest of updates packages.Once you do reboot and normally access you system newest kernel is already 6.19.8-200.fc43.x86_64

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Thanks @ledeni!

I had completely forgotten you can set runlevels at the kernel command line. Because runlevels are a sysv concept I ended up looking up what the systemd equivalent is and found: systemd.unit=multi-user.target
I was already on the latest kernel but I did try to pull in 6.19.9-200.fc43.x86_64 from the testing repository.

Fedora freezes just before login screen