Flatpaks hanging/Freezing on Fedora Silverblue 32

Hi all,

I am using Fedora 32 SB and find it pretty good. However, I have noticed apps hanging for what seems like an eternity before responding again to input such as mouse clicks. I’m not performing CPU or RAM intensive tasks. I have experienced this behavior during use of apps such as: Gedit, Nautilus, Libre Office.

Troubleshooting so far:

  1. I have tried running fewer apps but this does not fix the issue. Furthermore, RAM usage is about 36% and CPU usage is minimal.
  2. I have run rpm-ostree cleanup -m and sudo flatpak repair but this has not improved my performance.
  3. I didn’t experience these issues with SB 31. The only non standard thing I can think of off the top of my head is that I now have zRAM setup with no swap as I have an SSD.
  4. I have noticed clicking to another app window and returning to the app helps lets the app unfreeze.

I am pretty much a newblie so any ideas would be useful.

I’m suffering from this problem only with Gedit Flatpak.

But if my memories didn’t trick me … I have this problem with Fedora 32 Workstation too!

You could try to replicate this problem in Fedora 32 Workstation just to be sure if it is a thing only for Silverblue…

Hello @xprojects,
Try running flatpak ps -vv in a terminal while you have the offending flatpak app running. This should provide detailed debugging info for whatever flatpak is running. Let us know here what you find. Add --columns=all to the above command to see all columns of info. You may need to pipe it to less flatpak ps --columns=all -vv | less no need to use less.
Whenever I have run flatpak repair I used the --reinstall-all option. I also never use flatpak as --user, I always use default (which is --system).

Thank you @jakfrost This sounds like a good plan, I will get back with results asap. When you recommend the following:

From a learning perspective, how did you find out about this option? I have looked into the ‘flatpak -h’ , man page and flatpak docs and can’t see reference to it. On the man page it has ` flatpak-repair(1)’ but I don’t see the significance of the “(1)”.

Also you mention:

From the flatpak docs website, I see the “System versus user section” and understand from this description that I am running as default i.e. -system

Thanks for your help. I will be back with an update.

Hello @xprojects,
The command I use is flatpak repair --reinstall-all if my flatpak installs seem to be running “flaky”.
For example, I was having an issue with FreeCad not showing it’s gui after launching from the desktop. It would show up in processes, but no front end to actually use the software. I used the above command and it cleaned up my entire install of flatpaks and reinstalled everything, and pruned where necessary. Then FreeCad worked.
You should first use it without the --reinstall-all option, You can do a dry run (flatpak repair --dry-run) first to see what it finds and would do to fix your flatpak installation. Run it as sudo to actually have it do anything to your flatpak installs, since it needs sudo rights to modify ref’s. (sudo flatpak repair)
There is no number ‘1’, it is the letter ‘I’ that confused you. The font on the site is monotype so the capital I looks like a lowercase ‘L’ or the number one.
But on the topic of learning, I read and read and installed the flatpak developer demo to understand more about how flatpaks are installed on the system.
Good luck, and looking forward to hearing your results.

I need help too. Will start another thread if I can’t find answers on this one.

My issue is that now running “flatpak update” asks for a username and password for the fedora remote, and I honestly have no effing clue what to put in here because everything I try doesn’t work. Please help me.

Hello @mpphill2,
Could you please post the output of the command? You shouldn’t need to enter a password to update flatpaks. Tell me do you have user and system installs in use, I did at first using them and it caused me issues. Now I leave it as default (system) and never use --user. I just tried mine and no problems had so I assume the server is okay, flathub sometimes has given me issues, try it later and all good.
[edit] You know, that sounds like a remote signature problem maybe. Just thinking out loud about your issue.

I don’t specify --user or use sudo in my installs, not sure where they fall.

Now that you mention system installs, I have done a sudo flatpak repair a few times because it seemed like the metadata was not refreshing properly. Maybe I borked my own system, but here is pretty much the only commands I’ve ever run regarding flatpak:

flatpak update
flatpak install fedora org.gimp.GIMP (example)
sudo flatpak repair

I run a flatpak update pretty much every time I log into my computer. My install preference has been the Fedora remote to the Flathub. Not sure where I went wrong.

It really shouldn’t bork your install by doing sudo flatpak repair, and I think it is needed for that operation anyhow. Have you tried an rpm-ostree cleanup -m? Perhaps there is something with the actual flatpak tool on your install. Another question, what is the result of flatpak remotes?
Mine looks like this …


no “realm” in the name. Maybe that is what flatpak update will state when it goes to access the remote, but I haven’t seen it before and haven’t noticed on my Silverblue system.

Hey jakfrost, just wanted to say I appreciate you helping me out here. People like you are what make this community great.

I’ll try the ostree cleanup soon, I’m sort of procrastinating from my job right now but need to get down to it soon. Will report back.

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@mpphill2
You are certainly welcome. For my part, I use FOSS so much I feel I have to give back wherever I can.
I will watch for your response on the flatpak issue.

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Hi @jakfrost ! apologies for the delay in getting back to you. I found out that I had deleted an important folder recently, possibly due to this freezing issue, and have spent time finding my last good backup (also, unfortunately I had made an addition to my Borg backup script of borg create --one-file-system which had stopped backup of my home folder within the /var directory.). Added as I didn’t want it a loop being started with my mounted external drive - although it’s not doing that anyway. But I digress…

Here is the output of $ flatpak ps --columns=all -vv

Unfortunately, Nautilus doesn’t show up. I haven’t tried the other troubleshooting steps to see what you thought of this output first.

Thank you

Hello @xprojects,
Try running the flatpak update with the -vv flag, it should give us better debug info

hi @jakfrost

Below is the output from:

flatpak update -vv

F: No installations directory in /etc/flatpak/installations.d. Skipping
F: Opening system flatpak installation at path /var/lib/flatpak
F: Opening user flatpak installation at path /var/home/userx/.local/share/flatpak
Looking for updates…
F: Fetching summary file for remote ‘flathub’
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/com.calibre_ebook.calibre/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/com.github.junrrein.PDFSlicer/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/com.github.unrud.VideoDownloader/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/com.skype.Client/x86_64/stable[$old]
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F: Transaction: update flathub:app/io.atom.Atom/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/me.kozec.syncthingtk/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Calling system helper: GenerateOciSummary
F: Transaction: update fedora:app/org.fedoraproject.MediaWriter/x86_64/stable[$old]
F: Transaction: update flathub:app/org.flatpak.qtdemo/x86_64/stable[$old]
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F: Looking for remote metadata updates for flathub
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F: marking op update:app/im.riot.Riot/x86_64/stable resolved to 435dea5532c3da4b7a61274dea517956bcf50d0f133f743afa39c81268a5f84b
F: marking op update:app/com.skype.Client/x86_64/stable resolved to b7258ba9299f1e59570234aa562217a6b6a6497384cebad799bd3127cbf45790
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F: marking op update:app/com.github.tchx84.Flatseal/x86_64/stable resolved to d6b2231ac5a77e14fa784fdd6b815bf16f19e36210f9c268314c593dc58cfb2e
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F: marking op update:app/com.calibre_ebook.calibre/x86_64/stable resolved to 6c84f88d5207ff5dd122cb2607a713955d5d7e4bbeb5df4bd4afd1a9d784b447
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F: Requesting tokens for remote fedora: (runtime/org.fedoraproject.Platform/x86_64/f32, fafc9e1f23d78abf3b0780a8fa28dbf1ec6cca07fec7d1042490861796cad22e 1), (runtime/org.fedoraproject.Platform/x86_64/f31, 61c8511889de01175da09d126bef096251e5cd20070ca1af10c81c901ff9e877 1), (app/org.gnome.gedit/x86_64/stable, 8a213d47b89699b68b127a613ff17b674d427dd694e4715f3d842a5ac21588af 1), (app/org.gnome.font-viewer/x86_64/stable, 0723530f7aa735a84cc5b3915c90b752f6cdb66e86562b0e6d8a452ea313a498 1), (app/org.gnome.eog/x86_64/stable, 74ca6382f7cc8ec24cc1fe4a37b56cf43a4f2724d6aca0a413a1c77d9da8de07 1), (app/org.gnome.clocks/x86_64/stable, b9d1cf5b7e662b2a4a973de5285345470c733dcbefc82aa105939c8846b53ba7 1), (app/org.gnome.Weather/x86_64/stable, 9f2b073b1869df5aab58a8696f0d59bbdf53e377e3d838aa33d3aea04346444d 1), (app/org.gnome.Screenshot/x86_64/stable, 68c5db3ddba3270994b2378a47a71fcf1bced1b0e3cfc0cdc81ebc2642e294ad 1), (app/org.gnome.Maps/x86_64/stable, 540ff90441f12390cdc1acab39ec00fe64e62870f9e38f1b377a0b77baf11e7d 1), (app/org.gnome.Logs/x86_64/stable, 0601ae729b953aed688a40092937a8d9ac218b67f0c9c491021e6c80b3556690 1), (app/org.gnome.Geary/x86_64/stable, 701722a937f3552b4b397601d93536fc993d8ed41002c316b959c65806a366fe 1), (app/org.gnome.FileRoller/x86_64/stable, 60a42ba3d38a761a5a99857176b08d95e141dc968b90dc2d25cebfc0cb3b7be5 1), (app/org.gnome.Evince/x86_64/stable, 77c5bc2973d26dc51ce261cf6354fa0802876e3c9c4f2d7bbc97ccc55bcabb00 1), (app/org.gnome.Contacts/x86_64/stable, 7876045e2e6d20f5412e882efb966a27dbee411ad49b3749d34753f3243d8ece 1), (app/org.gnome.Characters/x86_64/stable, f6f6e12610b8b863bbb9e09cbf4f2474fbd77f809d6066b1f632e592d6df3325 1), (app/org.gnome.Calculator/x86_64/stable, 797dc8b908de6039eead1e03c74b8bb19413f07e96201baa5822cd53f7a9fc9d 1), (app/org.gnome.Baobab/x86_64/stable, 2433aee27a9fdeaf7292ab2d072b22729fa0add69c0fff40d34c616b1db3f5e1 1), (app/org.gimp.GIMP/x86_64/stable, 4ca860c6254993cf519ad905704b89ed8b08b698703d4dda9a4a92359ef9e5be 1), (app/org.fedoraproject.MediaWriter/x86_64/stable, f62f6f88f0d41273e6dd7deb8fd8527597a3f0c877ea90e0bd3dacbe1546b84f 1)
F: Response from request_tokens: 0 - {‘tokens’: <{’’: [‘runtime/org.fedoraproject.Platform/x86_64/f32’], ‘’: [‘runtime/org.fedoraproject.Platform/x86_64/f31’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.gedit/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.font-viewer/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.eog/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.clocks/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Weather/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Screenshot/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Maps/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Logs/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Geary/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.FileRoller/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Evince/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Contacts/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Characters/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Calculator/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gnome.Baobab/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.gimp.GIMP/x86_64/stable’], ‘’: [‘app/org.fedoraproject.MediaWriter/x86_64/stable’]}>}

Nothing to do.
F: fedora:x86_64 appstream age 867337 is greater than ttl 86400
F: Updating appstream data for remote fedora
F: Calling system helper: GenerateOciSummary
F: Calling system helper: DeployAppstream
F: fedora-testing:x86_64 appstream age 18446744073709551615 is greater than ttl 86400
F: flathub:x86_64 appstream age 11047 is less than ttl 86400

End of output

I hope you can make more sense of it than me :slight_smile:

Well, it didn’t error on you. It looks like it updated your appstream data for the fedora remote …

I know there were some comments flying around about issues with flatpak and particularly fedoras remote, but nothing like what you were describing exactly. This output is indicative of a normal result I think since it looks very similar to mine when I run it.
So, which specific flatpaks are the problem with freezing? Maybe we can narrow this down through looking at them

The main apps I have problems with are:

  1. Files/Nautilius (Not sure if this is a flatpak under the hood as I’m using the SB default)
  2. Atom - from flathub (although the developers have informed me that this is an unofficial version)
  3. Gedit - used this originally as my text editor although changed to Atom as it would freeze frequently (tried both Fedora and flathub versions)
  4. Libre Office (writer and spreadsheets) from flathub.

I have not been able to ascertain whether it’s one app causing problems with others or it’s all these apps. It’s quite hard to isolate as I frequently use these apps together - except for the two text editors.

Do just the apps freeze or does your system freeze? Why I ask is because twice in the past two releases (31 and 32) I have come back to my PC to find it frozen with the DE displaying with a mouse pointer but absolutely no keyboard or mouse input being accepted. Couldn’t even soft reboot, had to hard reboot to get control back.
On a side not I used to use Atom, but switched to MarkText as I found it much better. Just my opinion though.

Thanks for the tip on the text editor. I’ll give it a go! I have only learnt about scripting with Bash and Linux so all of this stuff is new :slight_smile:

I found it’s the apps themselves that freeze rather than the system. So for example, if Files is not responding, my mouse will still function and by changing app to something random it seems to unfreeze Files and I can try and use the app again.

It is almost starting to sound like a dbus issue, have you done an rpm-ostree update recently? Certain flatpaks like nautilus are installed as part of the installation process for Silverblue, but aside from that if @felipehw is right about this going on in WS then it definitely could be dbus related and a Gnome issue. If I get a chance I will cruise through Gnomes issue list.

thanks @jakfrost. What is “WS”?

I don’t recall having this issue in Silverblue 31 although perhaps I didn’t have it installed long enough to know for sure. Is dbus a hardware issue?

The rpm-ostree status at present is Version: 32.20200707.0 (2020-07-07)

I’ll give it an update and also try your other tips on flatpak repair now.