In a recovery partition and add fedora into that if someone breaks the system they should have a option to restore back this should be in the silverblue atleast.
There is no reason not to have a recovery partition which maybe hidden and when (if) system breaks we can simply restore.
The general consensus on Matrix seems to be that this is possible (see Pop!_OS’s implementation of it), but it:
- requires a lot of work to keep the recovery environment up-to-date
- is unnecessary
I would recommend just keeping your install media around if you need a recovery image similar to Pop!_OS. Fedora also has the recovery command line, FWIW.
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If you already restored your install media, Fedora Media Writer is preinstalled on Fedora. You can just re-flash and keep the flash drive handy.
Not necessary to always up to date it can be done on a monthly basis
As we are moving towards a image base systems for desktop we should have this so without losing major stuff we can have a recovery ready.This is a feature that laptop manufacturer should ask for if system breaks who will restore that.
If user need to do it by themself this is not general user ready os.
- The image-based desktops are not going to replace the standard Workstation and Spins for years.
- Laptop manufacturers (Lenovo is one) already sell laptops preinstalled with Workstation and make their own recovery partitions.
- If we can’t get them to boot from USB, what makes you think booting into a separate recovery partition is any easier?
In addition, the whole point of the Atomic Desktops is that they’re atomic. As in, you’re not going to break anything with an update, and since every app is Flatpak, you wouldn’t be able to bork your system unless you were really trying to.
This is something that windows does and when does breaks it initiate a recovery using the recovery partition now if we are talking about yes that have May happen in that case we have to consider this is the worse case scenario at least we have a recovery mechanism built in.
I know in image with systems atomic desktop we already have something like older working system ready so that you can switch to the older version which was running but having a separated recovery partition that can recover from corrupted is system is a good deal to have this own take a lot storage and today’s storage is cheap.
This started once they stopped providing Windows install disks with new hardware. It’s a fix for not being able to get the install media.
Apple does the same with macOS also since you cannot get the install media.
As an aside when Windows blows itself up the recover is not to download a bootable Windows install disk now. We have gone full circle!
But for the free OS you can always get the media.
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And if you are in a bind and you are in a spot where the image isn’t working right, you can rollback. You can also pin different images as you go to have a few different versions to move between. But of course this is just an atomic thing and doesn’t come with a GUI.
Because a recovery image is basically the same as a factory reset, which is to say that your data will be wiped, I don’t think the value is that high. However, for new to Linux users who may expect the ability to factory reset it would be nice for them to have that option. But that benefit needs to be weighed against the cost and demand.
Indeed. There are “costs” just with adding more partitions. They can be too small (Windows hit this), they can be outdated (Windows hit this), they complicate the installer, and in some cases they can complicate more advanced configurations such as with mirrored system drives. Just because Windows does it doesn’t mean it is a good idea or that there aren’t other, better ways to accomplish the goal. If Fedora Linux were to implement something like this, it would probably make use of Btrfs’ snapshot abilities rather than creating another partition. But the downloadable install media is adequate.
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Again:
Project Discussion silverblue-team
I will close this Topic. For tech chit-chat please use the The Water Cooler
If there are serious 
proposals use the Change submission guidance :: Fedora Docs
And/or make your own Fedora based Remix.
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@frankjunior you have been already told in the past several times to use the categories in an appropriate manner, and to not urge tasks and changes you do not want to take the responsibility for (this starts with getting into technical backgrounds and implications and then prepare something concrete that can be tested and discussed before urging anyone).
This topic here might have been ok if it would be an asking topic like “Why is there no recovery partition in Fedora by default?” or how to mitigate the scenarios you mean (if the topic has an emphasis that corresponds to that question! And only one topic at a time if one depends on another!) in the ask.fp category, or raising a discussion about using recovery partitions in Fedora in the watercooler. But it has to stop that this type of topic appears in the Project Discussion.
If this behavior does not change, we might have to consider to suspend your account some time so that you can have time for a deeper look into the rules and practices of the Fedora Project.
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