Fedora' Grub-Customizer's os-prober not 'seeing' Fedora kernels?

installed grub-customizer-5.2.5-2.fc41.x86_64.rpm (I’m running f43 btw) and installed/loaded fine, looking just like the Ubuntu grub-customizer, but noticed it’s os-prober listed only the WIN7 and Ubuntu boots, no Fedora boots (didn’t save - and probably not make any difference as I’m using Ubuntu’s grub bootloader…).

Wonder if 43 or 44 will be made to be able to use this sweet tool…

I don;t know why that is still packaged, aparently it can cause problems and is best not to use.
You will find links to more details buried somewhere on this forum…

It’s job is to find the OS that are NOT Fedora.

No disrespect intended to the developer/maintainer but Grub Customizer has known issues that can really mess up your system.

Basically, it uses its own proxified scripts to do what it does. Trying to clear them out is an almost impossible task.

If you want a custom GRUB menu, then take a look at how to modify /etc/grub.d/40_custom for your needs.

Much safer, much more control in your hands.

This is also one the reasons it was retired. It’s currently not being built for supported Fedora releases, see grub-customizer - Fedora Packages

I beg to differ as the Ubuntu Grub-Customizer works flawlessly and been using it for years… just using it in Fedora seems to be really ‘glitchy’, but so do many other apps that run well in Ubuntu…

…in hopes Fedora will keep it working like Ubuntu does? Really a usefull and GREAT TOOL that I’ve been using for years in Ubuntu 24.04.3lts… seems Fedora just doesn’t care?

…finds Fedora kernels fine in Ubuntu’s Grub-Customizer and been using it the whole time for my Fedora 43 / WIN7 / Ubuntu 24.04.3lts triple boot ubuntu grub… just not in Fedora?
~ bit wierd to swallow!

REAL PITY, as it’s VERY USEFUL in Ubuntu, and to stay competitive you’d think…

Does os-prober also find the ubuntu kernels?

I’ve always seen os-prober as the tool to find foreign bootable systems.

YEP - finds EVERYTHING… windoz, ubuntu, fedora…

Ubuntu’s Grub-Customizer is indespensible for my triple boot laptop!!!

Fedora cares, the Grub-Customizer works on debian based system but not on rhel based.
That is why we do not have it anymore in the packages. It messes up grub2.

You can not compare Ubuntu with Fedora one to one. Ubuntu also includes software which fedora not delivers because of licenses etc.

There is no problem if you manage grub from Ubuntu, right?

…like I said - works flawlessly.

Just that if one day I wanted to put Fedora by itself on another laptop, it’s be nice to be able to customize the Fedora grub using its Grub-Customizer - adding graphics, submenus, reorganizing kernel list, etc. ~ the grub I saw that Fedora 43 displayed when I first installed it, was close to despicable when compared to Ubuntu’s :anguished_face:

Ubuntu is a Debian based OS. Means, there is a bigger range of Desktop users, and for that the Grub customizer has been made for it. Someone from the community sponsored or payed someone to make it. Fedora not shows grub by default. You have to press esc. when booting to do so. For us it is a tool to use when something goes wrong while booting to use the rescue kernel or an other version.

If you want to use it to show a nice boot menu, you need to adapt the customizer to the fedoras boot structure. As long as nobody does you will not be able to use it as on Ubuntu.

Opensource means you have free access to the code. When you can read and change it, you are allowed to do so. However the “work” around the code to adapt and making work on other environments is not part of the Opensource Agreement.

In this case, grub wont be shown at all.
Fedora auto-hides grub menu on single-OS systems.

if grub-customizer is a debian ‘paid’ (sp) for product, then why is there a redhat version:
grub-customizer-5.2.5-2.fc41.x86_64.rpm

NOPE - Fedora has CHOSEN to NO LONGER support this VERY useful tool (like it’s also dropping of support for wifi variables in CONKY, and dumping of MANY other very nice apps)

My installing Fedora 43 on a spare partition was to see how red hat has progressed since the 90’s when I first installed it on my now very old MDS laptop (still on it and still works but very archaic), and determine its worthiness as a potential alternate system to ubuntu… it seems to have many features I find adorable, but at the expense of so much weirdness, too

Hiding the Fedora grub when it’s so ugly, although understandable, is also a cop-out… I want to customize it with pretty picture, submenus, etc.

Fedora does not choose. It’s the people that volunteer that choose.
They choose what to work on and also what not to work on.
Unless someone cares to make the changes nothing will change.

If you want to contribute to fixing grub-customize to work well with Fedora we would welcome your work. Otherwise you will need to find someone with the time and desire to work on this.

sez it all - leaving one to look elsewhere and skip Fedora, and where does that eventually lead? Even less RedHat users and extinction…

I’m almost 73, have multiple sclerosis and both hands numb and w/loss of dexterity (two finger typing w/lots of typos slowing me down even more…), so even my postings onto forums is burdensome - then there’s the stage IV metastasized cancer surgery/chemo survivor limiting how much longer I’ll even be around (so even if I had skills to do this, probability sez it’ll wind up uncompleted…) - and don’t even want to mention my VATS w/pleurodesis done on both lungs…

… and it’s not just grub-customizer, it’s all the other dropped stuff LINUX systems (and I include Ubuntu) dump that make folks like me get left with good ol’ micro$lop Windoz to swallow… almost miss the good ol’ days of CPM, fortran, DOS, etc.

Oh, to be young again!

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