Fedora-Council/tickets ticket #557: Guidance necessary: Join SIG and temporary memberships for the sole purpose of voting in FESCo election

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Reposting my comment on the pagure ticket here to keep this thread complete:

Here’s the main topic for context that is public:

https://discussion.fedoraproject.org/t/how-can-i-join-the-f43-fesco-election

Thanks for the write up, Chris. However, I’m afraid the main questions here are different and have little to do with temporary membership or individual discretion—people are always added to FAS groups based on individual trust/vetting/“discretion”.

  • The main question is: “Who is allowed to vote in FESCo elections?”
  • The next question is “Is CLA+1 a proxy for whatever this criteria is?”
  • The next one is: “Is CLA+1 a sufficient proxy for this criteria, or does it need to be replace/updated to enforce the criteria”.
  • The final one, pertaining to this case is: “Is activity on Discourse not enough to ‘earn’ these voting rights?”

Second order questions are:

  • Are community members able to provide group membership based on their judgement as we always have?

I do not see any violations in the current case. I see no “bypassing” of “filters”. I see no “abuse”. A community member wanted to vote in elections, another community member vetted them and gave them the voting rights. The Join SIG’s FAS group is used to give people CLA+1 rights for things like editing the wiki because large parts of Fedora contribution do not rely on FAS groups, and I see this case as no different. The “intent”, if I may use the term, is to give community members that we trust access to community resources.

The initial topic and posts in it (eg: How can I join the F43 Fesco election? - #22 by py0xc3) have made me very uncomfortable in the way it was handled. We put “process over people”, to the extent where the original person who started this topic apologised, zeroed out their votes, and has asked people “not to be harsh” on the community member that helped them

I will please ask that people read the public topic before thinking about the issue. The full context is really important. Summaries do not quite include the nuances of the discussion.

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