Well, plus LXQt/DE latest as well as Xfce 4.20 both announced features in Fedora 42. No need for USB sticks, there could be some VM with remote access (x2go?).
BTW what about status for badge? We’d need a QR code to approve users to own that.
New update from the FrOSCon organizers:
Dear Exhibitors,
as we’re getting closer to FrOSCon, we’d like to communicate some more
detailed information with regards to your participation.Starting with our time table: You can prepare your booths starting
Friday, 17:00h. On Friday, we’re still in the build-up phase ourselves
and thus cannot offer you all services; especially we’ll have no power
and no network infrastructure available. On Saturday, you can enter at
about 7:30h and start or continue your preparations. The conference opens
for visitors at 8:30h that day; the social event starts at about 18:00h.
On Sunday, exhibitors may enter at 9:00h and visitors may return
starting 9:15h. We close the conference and start teardown at 17:00h.
Please refrain from closing and disassembling your booth before 17:00h
in order to not prematurely end the conference for our visitors.At the venue, we’ll have signs on every booth space, so that you can
find your spot. If that for some reason doesn’t work out, please ask one
of the organizers to guide you. Generally, projects are located in the
university’s mess hall (“Mensa”) and partners are located along the main
corridor. Every booth has some kind of back wall: Most got dedicated
exhibition walls, some got pin boards or building walls, some projects
got windows. It is possible to put e.g. posters on all of these. However,
they must be taken down cleanly. For the exhibition walls in particular,
we provide you with “Tesa Posterstrips” and ask you to only use those.Note also, that we don’t provide a security service for the booths over
night. We’re not aware that there was any problem during any FrOSCon, but
if you’d like some booth item to be locked we have a special room for that.
Furthermore, we want to communicate that we have a first aid service on
location that we encourage you to make use of (not only in cases of
emergency).We provide every booth with one Schuko power outlet. Multiple booths share
a single fuse. We expect that you’ll use the power supply for some notebooks
and other devices with low power draw. The distribution within your booth
is in your own responsibility, but please take action to avoid cascading
multiple distribution sockets. By law, everything that is connected to the
power network of the conference has to be safe to operate. We are aware
that within your booths usually the devices are brought from home, where
these are not checked regularly. Please only operate devices that are in
working order and clean state. If you bring any self built devices or have
other uncertainties, please contact us before you plug them in. We’ll find
a solution.For internet connectivity, we provide one Ethernet cable to every booth.
All booths on the conference share one network segment. WLAN is also available,
but may be unstable due to the high number of users.If you have any special requests, regarding infrastructure, furniture, or
anything else, please tell us as soon as possible. We try to make it possible,
and will confirm or have to deny your request.On Saturday, please use the “VIP entry” left of the main entrance.
There you can not only skip the long queue, but also get your special
badge. The badge provides both recognition, as well as access to our
backstage catering. But please do not take beverages from backstage to
anywhere else.Please note that the Social Event on Saturday Evening is not included.
You can pre-order a ticket on https://presale.froscon.org/
Invoice options are possible.At last, there’s one more rule: At project booths, we cannot allow any
corporate ads in any form (e.g. logos, flyers, merchandising gifts).
FrOSCon depends on our partners covering our costs to provide the space
for the community.We look forward to see you at FrOSCon!
Well, I can not promise anything for Friday, due to travelling issues (Deutsche Bahn ..).
Maybe I can bring a Raspberry Pi with small TFT, everything fits in a trolley or regularly sized bag. As assumption we would not have that much space so a beamer couldn’t be optimal, could it? Any system can be shown by help from virtual machines (as cloud service) and remote access (x2go?).
Please note that the Social Event on Saturday Evening is not included. You can pre-order a ticket ..
That is completely new for me, what benefit is there then for a community project with booth presence?
I am not sure, but I think that was not included in earlier froscons too. I think tickets were available also at the very place. I think this is a matter of costs, but also to not waste food: I think bbq was contained, and they don’t know what communities attend and what make their own event. I think we got tickets which we could use at the bbq, didn’t we?
We get two notebooks from Fedora. I think that should suffice. We have not that much space anyway. I don’t think a beamer makes sense, for the reason you mentioned.
I think it would be useful to have the two major distributions shown, Workstation & KDE. Having a possibility to allow users to also check out the others without too much effort, that would be nice. But not a game changer. If I attend, I might bring some USB drives. Alternatives are possible as well of course, but I would not put too much efforts inside. Also, I am a friend of focusing on promoting variants that are explicitly and redundantly/reliably maintained, including all dependent packages, because there are mixed feelings about others. We might go one step ahead to keep it simple, and focus on variants that are officially supported, which excludes the spins and labs.
Anyway, important is the major editions for users, which is Workstation/Gnome and KDE. In the second line might be their immutable counterparts (they are also officially supported), given the increased interest and the discussion that they might become the future of Fedora. Doesn’t it suffice to have them? Workstation & KDE, and maybe Silverblue and Kinoite on demand? Or one mutable Workstation and an immutable KDE? Something like that. Users won’t play for hours on a Fedora and thus do not get an in depth experience: that’s not the goal of FrOSCon. The “differences” to other distributions can be verified with each of the GUI editions, while the Desktop experiences on themselves of the very spin doesn’t differ much among distributions, except maybe the defaults.
Anyway , keep in mind that we will not have that much time. Usually, we come together on Saturday morning soon before FrOSCon begins (I presume it will be the same again?), and so setting up one OS on one laptop might be possible in parallel to preparations, but everything beyond might be a little problematic / unhandy.
Again, be aware about Xfce 4.20 announced as feature for F42. LXQt upstream is in active development and I was told packages moved with maintainance to upstream developer.
Besides all that I’m looking for a nice tablet with LTE and 11". Maybe Lenovo.
They are not yet supported. That might change, but it is not yet. There is a lot we cannot guarantee about them. And at the moment, this starts with the fact that we do not know if there will be anyone at the booth to elaborate their use. FrOSCon is not to get an in depth experience, it is not suitable for that. If you want to invest the efforts to provide a means to make all spins available, feel free, but keep in mind that we should on average have our officially supported editions running on the laptops/screens as rough first impression, and everything unsupported should be limited to user requests.
Again, we have limited space. At the best, we have two tables, maybe just one. Shouldn’t we focus on the laptops that are officially supported by Fedora? If we get only one table, we might even have to choose between the two Fedora laptops. We will have as many chairs as people, maybe even less. And I assume you remember that we always had limited space behind the booth. So I really suggest to limit the stuff we bring with, and keep the packages we bring small if possible.
Mhkey, so it is mainly about providing some swag.
If you want to invest the efforts to provide a means to make all spins available ..
That is not my point. Due to known limited space we should think if use container image(s) with support of some cloud service, as described.
There won’t be any/few. My experience from Chemnitz tells me most visitors are just looking around for impressions and ask if interested.
In assumption we get similiar official hardware from event setup as we could use in Chemnitz. We were not allowed to (re)install anything there, just use what is preinstalled, for compatibility reason.
However we had additionally a Raspberry Pi for individual cases. Honestly to attract people some automatic presentation or short movie loop would be sufficient on the screen(s).
No idea what you mean with “not yet supported”. LXQt 2.2 is on its way into rawhide.
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/42/ChangeSet#Xfce-4.20
https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Releases/42/ChangeSet#LXQt_2.1
" Those who prefer using X11 will have to either switch to using a different login manager and desktop environment combo that supports X11 or move to Fedora Spins such as Xfce, Cinnamon, or MATE, which will continue to offer X11 sessions. " (news.itsfoss.com)
We are. I talked already to Justin and the people who currently keep the laptops (though we only talked about having at least one KDE edition on one of the two) 
No one could explicitly verify that USB boot is enabled or that the BIOS is not password-protected, but the expectation is that it is not, and it seems one person already re-installed a Fedora on a laptop, so I expect this will be possible. The other question is if we can / want to invest that time, especially if it is not clear for both of us if we attend: I can invest the time to set up a Fedora if I attend, but if not, the decision is to those who will be there how/what they want to setup stuff. I am not sure if I would invest much more time to plan in advance for things we do not know if they will be realistic at all.
In short, the difference between an edition and spins: E.g., a team aligning the system such as pre-configuring and adjusting the firewall, maintenance of all dependencies is taken care of & assigned & monitored, long term considerations about maintenance and alignment before something is introduced to an edition, etc.
Possibly of interest, syncstar might be a nifty thing to run there if
you can:
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@kevin Thanks for the hint. But those times for accepting random sticks seem to be over. We can not assume visitors will use only freshly bought devices, so we should not risk pollution of hardware with viruses or trojans, do we?
Better process we can hint users to download individually from official sources and burn images by themselfs. Sorry.
Just a thought, you don’t need to use it… but my understanding is that it wipes the given device completely, not reading whats on it. So, there shouldn’t be any concerns with malware I don’t think.
But yeah, many people may not have a device handy, but they might…
Well, we could provide some support If Red Hat wants to finance such official pen drives aka USB sticks with clean images in just like it has been usually done in those DVD times as give aways. No idea If there is still budget left and time to prepare shortly. We may need an hudge amount of those devices and optimally branded somehow.
@py0xc3 how big is screen of those official laptops we can use at project booth?
As described I am interested in some test playing around with remote desktops running inside container or as cloud services.
Afaik (and as far as I remember FOSDEM), the Framework 16 is a 16" laptop but about the Slimbook Fedora 2 I am no longer sure, I didn’t pay much attention to this, and the vendor has both 14" and 16" variants of the Fedora Slimbook 2. I think to remember from FOSDEM that the Slimbook was smaller than the Framework in such respects, and as such I think it was the 14" variant, but I am not sure about it. We will see when we are there. But I don’t think this makes a big difference for our purposes.
Anyway, even if we are allowed to change the OS and add another Fedora, I feel it a little as our responsibility to also ensure that everyone who gets the laptops next should be able to rely on the laptops being shipped with one of the officially supported editions (in a way that can represent the very default edition, untainted, without external packages/customizations that impact appearance or experience or so) → we don’t know who will get them next, and whoever this will be, we will not know if they have the time or capacity to make another change. Just to keep that in mind (not sure what type of customizations you have in mind).
Well, that is exactly why my suggestion to somehow use VM or Container for individual configurations and consider preinstalled system as immutable base.
I will arrive in Bonn around 5:30 p.m. on Friday—provided that Deutsche Bahn has its act together. Is there anything planned for Friday evening in terms of setting up the booth, or shall we do that on Saturday? Or would anyone like to take the opportunity to meet up?
As I already suspected in our conversations in Flock, I will not be able to attend. It’s for sure now. I can keep the organization as far as something comes up, and if there are any questions or so about the organization of the booth or if anything needs to be clarified, feel free to let me know - I can also get in touch with the organizers if needed for some reason at this time. But once you are at FrOSCon, you have to survive without me But I guess everything is clarified anyway, the booth shall be visible/marked as Fedora & CentOS, and as far as I remember, every booth member can get a tag or something like that at the entrance when you arrive. I think there is not much more to prepare Beyond, see the final letter of the FrOSCon team, which I shared above.
@bookwar @raphgro I am not sure if you want to coordinate if anyone needs to bring USB drives or something else concerning Fedora variants or as backup if something is broken on a laptop or so, just in case, or to have a KDE or so available as well. But I would not invest too much time in that. Anyway, I presume the technical stuff around the laptops will be up to you, do as you see fit Credentials of the current systems of the laptops are in the document Aleksandra has access to.
@jbley I hope everything has worked out with the shipment?
Hey all,
I am back from PTO and so far the shipment has not arrived. Dorka is back tomorrow so I’ll have more news then. Nevertheless, unless my schedule changes I will get to the venue before Saturday morning 8ish am. I will now post the same also in the matrix room 
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Just in case I can bring two Raspberry Pis (models 3&5) to the event and will try they display something on small TFT as promised above.
FYI as every year there is an invitation of FSFE to Café Pendel in Bonn for Friday before the event weekend, start is 19 o’clock. Personnally I can not say if attend.
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