When trying to install F44 KDE through the new UI I can’t seem to find all the settings that would allow it to boot. Additionally, it seems to be missing storage configuration options (or maybe I am just clicking wrong, but the old UI seemed capable of these things)
I specified the following on one disk:
/: xfs
/boot/: xfs
/boot/efi: EFI partition.
When I got to the final screen, it listed / as being btrfs and added the /home partition with btrfs. I did not chose this setup. I had to go back and manually assign the partitions/hope that the filesystem was applied, it wasn’t clear that the filesystem was put down already, especially with the last screen before ‘install’ showing a different setup.
I have a separate RAID1 setup with my /home, and did not chose to alter its contents or ask the installer to interact with it. I was unable to assign a partition (/home) to it as it was not the disk chosen for installation and did not show up in the partition assignment screen. That is “fine”, I can do it myself later, but it was something the previous UI was able to handle.
Additionally it didn’t ever appear to ask for a username or root account password/setup. After the installation, F44 was unable to mount/activate /boot/efi (I guess during my attempts to fix the partitioning from btrfs → xfs I caused the reformat of /boot/efi, and the UUID changed, but that was not reflected in /etc/fstab) and as a result it could not boot after hitting a 45 second timeout when attempting to activate the device.
I was dropped to emergency mode, but the root account is locked and I couldn’t do anything, and since no user was added (as far as I know) there’s nothing I can do to fix this outside of booting into the Live CD again and fixing it by hand.
I would really appreciate feature parity with the previous UI, especially in regards to storage.
The storage configuration editor is hidden behind the “three dots” menu at the top right of the screen (see screenshot below), which should allow you to configure your storage to your specifications.
I would really appreciate feature parity with the previous UI, especially in regards to storage.
I’d kind of like that myself, although most of my installs are via kickstart, which doesn’t use the new installer (and is fully automated if done properly) and allows me to be pretty granular in what I install and how the system is configured.
Presumably, the new UI will improve in the future. In the meantime, if you use the “Everything Netinstall” ISO, you get the old UI and the ability to choose what (in this case, KDE/Plasma yes?) you wish to install. That will give you the functionality you need.
After that you will be able to log in as the user you created. Once logged in, you can make whatever additional customizations (enable root with ‘sudo passwd root’, add repositories like RPM Fusion, etc.) you wish.
I included this second reply just to further answer your questions and to give others those answers too, as many folks will likely be in a similar situation as yourself.
I would, especially if you have specific configuration needs and/or have multiple systems/VMs to install, recommend using kickstart (more details here) to install/configure your systems. It can upgrade as well as do fresh installs and can handle via a simple text file (see this example – not mine for details). In fact, IIUC, the Fedora packagers once used kickstart files to create the various versions/spins.
In any case, I hope these posts are useful to you. Good luck!
I understand the trend of trying to remove friction from the user experience, but overall I think it’s a bad trend. Apple pioneered the form over function trend; and there’s a reason I gravitate towards Linux over Apple products. I really, really abhor the new installer. I was able to mostly install how I wanted it to install, but I didn’t click the Launch storage editor behind the three dots menu because I thought it would just open GParted or something. It wasn’t until after I found this post that I knew what things would do; and by then it was too late because the install was well underway. In trying to remove friction from the lowest common denominator, you just made more friction for everyone else.
If you think your users are idiots, only idiots will use it.
Thanks; yea I don’t do installs at home enough to put in the effort to automate it more. I’m just surprised that no root account is even mentioned, the filesystem/partitioning changed after I specified it in the ‘three dots storage editor’, and in the ‘assign partitions to mount points’ don’t include all disks. It would have been nice to specify that the already partitioned/setup RAID1 device could be my home directory, as I have done in the past.
The new installer does look cleaner and performs better, but maybe it needs more time to cater to use cases other than 1 disk + btrfs. I hope kickstarts don’t go away
Just wanted to give you my experience feedback for anyone that may remedy it or anyone that experiences the same.
Created live USB Fedora Jam 44 KDE auto installed on a virgin NVME SSD letting the installer use all of the drive 4.1 Tb. Rebooted and entered details as instructed including administrator password, I am the only user. Was ejected to sign in (was not asked for sign in details) which appeared to accept my admin name (Henry) entered the admin password the only password I had been asked for and it would not authenticate. I hope that maybe of use to somebody that might be able to point out my mistake.
