Fedora 38 second monitor freezing

cnmirose · October 3, 2023, 4:36am

Hi Folks,

Not sure this is the appropriate thread, but I can’t find anything that solves my problem – this was closest.

I had a similar problem and this thread solved the recognizing the HDMI monitor problem (thanx!). However, I now have a problem with the second monitor freezing. Everything looks fine until I try to move a window then glitch …wait-a-beat… freeze second monitor. (I’m running KDE under X11 – and this does NOT seem to happen when running KDE under wayland – but I prefer X11).

In contrast I have another lenovo T1 (Gn with n<6) that uses only the nouveau driver and everything is just dandy (recognizes HDMI etc.). (And yes the older nvidia harware – quadro T1000 Mobile – is different than the newer G6 machine --RTX 2000 Ada Generation Laptop GPU )

Both systems run Fedora 38.

Does any of this this sound familiar?

Cheers,

Chris

phatle · October 3, 2023, 4:39am

i had similar issues on KDE when al monitors dosent have same resolution/scaling so basically i disable laptop screen when i connect to external screen and all is good and i switched away from HDMI or USB-C and use now only DisplayPort cables with HUB and it has never failed me anymore

cnmirose · October 3, 2023, 4:43am

Thanks, Marko! – alas, I need both the laptop and the monitor sometimes (zoom meetings with large numbers of people, specifically).

But now I’m curious – I’ma try disabling the laptop screen and see if the second monitor glitching goes away.
Cheers,
Chris

cnmirose · October 3, 2023, 4:50am

Tried shutting off laptop screen and talk about LAG (at a RIDICULOUS level). So there’s something fishy going on.

(I’m getting an automated mash note to start a new thread – so i’ll do that)

orpic · October 9, 2023, 4:33pm

In my case dnf list installed kmod-nvidia* returns no matches found: kmod-nvidia* after following your commands, and the external monitor is recognised via HDMI after a reboot.

kmod-nvidia-6.2.14… was never recreated for me though ( checked after reboot as well )

Thanks a lot!

computersavvy · October 9, 2023, 10:04pm

Would you please post the output of dnf list installed \*nvidia\*

Also note that post 6 way above on the original thread (the solution for the OP) provides instructions on how to install the nvidia drivers.
The only thing missing from that is the need to verify that secure boot is disabled so the drivers can load properly. The command sudo mokutil --sb-state will show the status of secure boot.

I am splitting off your segment of this thread to a new thread since the original on this thread was already solved.

cnmirose · October 9, 2023, 10:31pm

Thanks, Jeff and sure!!

dnf list installed *nvidia*

akmod-nvidia.x86_64                                         3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64                    3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @@commandline             
nvidia-gpu-firmware.noarch                                  20230919-1.fc38                         @updates                  
nvidia-persistenced.x86_64                                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
nvidia-settings.x86_64                                      3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64                                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda.x86_64                             3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.i686                          3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.x86_64                        3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc.x86_64                          3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686                               3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64                             3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power.x86_64                            3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates

And secure boot is disabled (not my first rodeo ).

Cheers,

Chris

cnmirose · October 9, 2023, 10:32pm

Whoops – did I screw up and extend the thread? Can you point me to the new thread so I can repost?

computersavvy · October 9, 2023, 10:45pm

No, this is the new thread I split it out to.

Note that my reply was to @orpic asking for this data.

Is your system problem solved or do you still need assistance.? When several are in the thread it sometimes becomes difficult to keep track of who needs what and whose problem is already fixed. This is why I split this off from a thread that was rambling on after the initial problem was solved.

cnmirose · October 9, 2023, 11:07pm

Double whoops. But NO – the stupid hdmi monitor still freezes when I’m using X11 (as opposed to Wayland which does NOT freeze – or at least hasn’t so far under limited use). And yes, I copied the .conf file as indicated in the original thread: /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/nvidia.conf copied to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/. That kept it from freezing immediately, but not for long.

computersavvy · October 10, 2023, 1:25am

According to your installed info you are still running the 6.5.5 kernel as I can see with the kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200… package.

Fedora has updated to the 6.5.6 kernel. Please do a full update with sudo dnf upgrade --refresh then reboot and see if there is any change. Note that if you do not use the refresh option the newer packages may not be pulled in.

There is one additional thing I might suggest if an upgrade does not seem to fix the problem, but lets try the upgrade first.

cnmirose · October 10, 2023, 2:56am

UPDATE: new kernel just hit my machine (was a midnight thing locally? – dunno).

GOOD NEWS: Added new nvidia module (did not kill previous – a good thing since the previous kernel is still on the machine for fallback ).

BAD NEWS: same stupid problem (freezing of HDMI monitor). Allowed LOTS of time for akmod to do its thing, but no soap.

However, let’s let this marinate a bit – I’m now getting new interesting behavior. Back after tomorrow after some futzing.

dnf list installed *nvidia*

akmod-nvidia.x86_64                                         3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64                    3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @@commandline             
kmod-nvidia-6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64                    3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @@commandline             
nvidia-gpu-firmware.noarch                                  20230919-1.fc38                         @updates                  
nvidia-persistenced.x86_64                                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
nvidia-settings.x86_64                                      3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64                                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda.x86_64                             3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.i686                          3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.x86_64                        3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc.x86_64                          3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686                               3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64                             3:535.113.01-1.fc38                     @rpmfusion-nonfree-updates
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power.x86_64

cnmirose · October 10, 2023, 4:56am

LATEST:

Using X11 KDE:

Semi-stable behavior with a Samsung TV 4096X2160
Almost Immediate crap-out with an LG 1920x1080 – trigger seems to be grabbing a window to move – crosshairs freeze (glitchlet) in primary (laptop) screen, then monitor freezes.

Wayland KDE – no problem

orpic · October 13, 2023, 2:39pm

Hi this is my output for dnf list installed \*nvidia\*

Installed Packages
akmod-nvidia.x86_64                              3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64         3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @@commandline                   
nvidia-gpu-firmware.noarch                       20230919-1.fc38              @updates                        
nvidia-persistenced.x86_64                       3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
nvidia-settings.x86_64                           3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64                       3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda.x86_64                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.i686               3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.x86_64             3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc.x86_64               3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686                    3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power.x86_64                 3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver

UPDATE - after running the sudo dnf upgrade --refresh the output changed to following

Installed Packages
akmod-nvidia.x86_64                              3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64         3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @@commandline                   
kmod-nvidia-6.5.6-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64         3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @@commandline                   
nvidia-gpu-firmware.noarch                       20230919-1.fc38              @updates                        
nvidia-persistenced.x86_64                       3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
nvidia-settings.x86_64                           3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia.x86_64                       3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda.x86_64                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.i686               3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-cuda-libs.x86_64             3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-kmodsrc.x86_64               3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.i686                    3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-libs.x86_64                  3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver
xorg-x11-drv-nvidia-power.x86_64                 3:535.113.01-1.fc38          @rpmfusion-nonfree-nvidia-driver

Also ,monitor is not detected when inxi -Fzxx is run

Update 3 -

After trying reboot a bunch of times the monitor is recognised, but not sure for how long this will be the case.

Is there a way to make fedora recheck / force recheck the hdmi connections or something simlar?

One more thing as cnmirose mentioned above the two KDE, is it the drivers that are different or the windowing system itself,
I checked mine the Windowing system is Wayland but as you see the output the xorg-x11-… drivers are there for nvidia , could that be an issue ?

Update 4 -

i removed this kmod-nvidia-6.5.5-200.fc38.x86_64.x86_64 and after reboot the monitor is now detected automatically, feels so good when this happens , will update for any new behaviours

cnmirose · October 18, 2023, 10:30pm

UPDATE:

Hi Folks!

Today’s update to 6.5.7-200.fc38 SEEMS to have ALMOST fixed my freeze-from-KDE/Plasma-X11 problem.

Almost because it’s only working on one of two HDMI-connected monitors so far. A Samsung TV (4K) seems to work fine (but I have not left it running long – only a half hour). An LGE 1920/1080 chokes pretty quickly (freezes). Same etiology as before: grab a window to move it. Glitchlet, Freeze. Very repeatable.

I only have one monitor plugged in at a time.

Sigh. Beyond my knowledge base.

Cheers,

Chris

cnmirose · November 8, 2023, 3:26am

UPDATE:

Hi Folks,

KDE/Plasma-X11 still freezing HDMI monitor after update to fedora 39.

This will soon become a non-problem since I hear that X11 will be dropped entirely from Fedora 40 in favor of Wayland (which doesn’t seem to freeze the HDMI monitor).

Cheers,

Chris

PS: Incidentally, had to do Jeff V’s process to reinstall nvidia after update. Worked like a charm.