Dnf and dnf5 are removed after update

[valiantboy]

Hey
This morning after I started my PC which has Fedora 43 with KDE Plasma 6.5

Now after the update, I faced a problem, which was the full screen mode wasn’t working. Neither in browser nor in any app, like minecraft. In minecraft settings, it simply showed that Full Screen Resolution not available and toggling the fullscreen mode would make my screen blank for 1-2 sec and then would come back to life doing nothing.

To fix this I thought to update my GPU drivers. I have a AMD apu so I just got the commands for doing so from AMD website. In konsole I did

valiantboy1@fedora:~$ sudo dnf update
sudo: dnf: command not found

After seeing this, I was sure that the update which I did in the morning from Discover f#ed my Fedora. I told this scene to chatgpt, and I did some command stuff, it told me the both dnf and dnf5 are missing from my PC.

How can I fix these and other mess which I haven’t discovered yet…???
Any help would be amazing.
Thanks In Advanced

[stormscape (J B)]

Are you perhaps using Fedora Kinoite? Kinoite doesn’t use dnf.

[valiantboy]

i dont think that’s the case, cause I have used dnf command before too. I have been on fedora for an year now. Till now this was working fine.

plus

What should I do?

[ankursinha (FranciscoD)]

@valiantboy

To fix this I thought to update my GPU drivers. I have a AMD apu so I just got the commands for doing so from AMD website.

Please tell us what these commands were so we can attempt to understand what may have changed in your system?

No dnf command should remove dnf—it’s part of a set of protected packages that dnf will refuse to remove. So, have you used another package manager or installation method that does not have these restrictions built in?

Can we please also have the output of fpaste --sysinfo --printonly?

Another output that would be useful is, so we can see what commands you have access to:

sudo ls /bin/d*

Also, the value of the PATH variable, which tells the shell where to look for your commands:

echo $PATH

[pg-tips (P G)]

@valiantboy

the update which I did in the morning from Discover

Can you try the command dnf4 history list ?

Discover still uses dnf4 (not dnf5 aka dnf), so it may be that dnf4 is still available and can show its history. That way we can figure out whatever Discover did.

[valiantboy]

@ankursinha

No dnf command should remove dnf

Well the problem started after I did the update from the Discover software. After that only I went to the konsole to actually update my drivers.

@ankursinha

Can we please also have the output of fpaste --sysinfo --printonly?

Well that’s big, I’m attaching a doc for the output
Document 3.docx

/bin/date                                /bin/dbxtool          /bin/delv                   /bin/dir             /bin/dnie-tool             /bin/dtrust-tool
/bin/dbilogstrip                         /bin/dc               /bin/depmod                 /bin/dircolors       /bin/dnsdomainname         /bin/du
/bin/dbiprof                             /bin/dcb              /bin/desktop-file-edit      /bin/dirmngr         /bin/dnsmasq               /bin/dump-acct
/bin/dbus-broker                         /bin/dconf            /bin/desktop-file-install   /bin/dirmngr-client  /bin/dnstap-read           /bin/dumpe2fs
/bin/dbus-broker-launch                  /bin/dd               /bin/desktop-file-validate  /bin/dirname         /bin/dolphin               /bin/dump.exfat
/bin/dbus-cleanup-sockets                /bin/ddcutil          /bin/desktoptojson          /bin/display         /bin/domainname            /bin/dump.f2fs
/bin/dbus-daemon                         /bin/ddns-confgen     /bin/devlink                /bin/distro          /bin/dos2unix              /bin/dumpiso
/bin/dbus-launch                         /bin/deallocvt        /bin/df                     /bin/dmesg           /bin/dosfsck               /bin/dumpkeys
/bin/dbus-monitor                        /bin/debugapp         /bin/dhclient               /bin/dmeventd        /bin/dosfslabel            /bin/dumpmscat
/bin/dbus-run-session                    /bin/debugfs          /bin/dhclient-script        /bin/dmfilemapd      /bin/dracut                /bin/dumpseg
/bin/dbus-send                           /bin/debugfs.ocfs2    /bin/dictgen                /bin/dmidecode       /bin/dragon                /bin/dump-utmp
/bin/dbus-test-tool                      /bin/debuginfod-find  /bin/di-edid-decode         /bin/dmsetup         /bin/driverless            /bin/dump_xsettings
/bin/dbus-update-activation-environment  /bin/defrag.f2fs      /bin/diff                   /bin/dmstats         /bin/driverless-fax        /bin/dvcont
/bin/dbus-uuidgen                        /bin/defragfs.ocfs2   /bin/diff3                  /bin/dnf-3           /bin/drkonqi-coredump-gui  /bin/dwp
/bin/dbwrap_tool                         /bin/delpart          /bin/dig                    /bin/dnf4            /bin/drkonqi-sentry-data

Here is the echo output
`

/home/valiantboy1/.local/bin:/home/valiantboy1/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/sbin

`
And thank you for your reply!

[valiantboy]

valiantboy1@192:~$ dnf4 history list
ID | Command line | Date and time | Action(s) | Altered

 5 |                                                                                                                  | 2025-12-05 12:10 | Removed        |    6   
 4 |                                                                                                                  | 2025-12-05 12:08 | Install        |    2   
 3 |                                                                                                                  | 2025-12-05 11:40 | I, U           |   87   
 2 |                                                                                                                  | 2025-11-30 11:24 | I, U           |   49  <
 1 |                                                                                                                  | 2025-11-28 11:52 | Install        |    5 > 

Here’s the output. I wonder how was an update able to remove dnf5

[pg-tips (P G)]

Thanks, at least we can drill into some detail here. Can you look at the details of today’s updates?

dnf4 history info 3
dnf4 history info 4
dnf4 history info 5

[valiantboy]

valiantboy1@192:~$ dnf4 history info 3
Transaction ID : 3
Begin time     : Fri 05 Dec 2025 11:40:25 AM IST
Begin rpmdb    : be622630e5e4a4c9cfa277954f8870860bf96bf5378c88cc412550ffdddc5e00
End time       : Fri 05 Dec 2025 11:42:11 AM IST (106 seconds)
End rpmdb      : 59702e0be6d1479238a9a89d5f15c07afbee1789b40d83e2f401533be88c2d3e
User           : Super User <root>
Return-Code    : Success
Releasever     : 
Command Line   : 
Persistence    : Unknown
Comment        : 
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valiantboy1@192:~$ dnf4 history info 4
Transaction ID : 4
Begin time     : Fri 05 Dec 2025 12:08:02 PM IST
Begin rpmdb    : 59702e0be6d1479238a9a89d5f15c07afbee1789b40d83e2f401533be88c2d3e
End time       : Fri 05 Dec 2025 12:08:03 PM IST (1 seconds)
End rpmdb      : df578dd8fe738cc696912c6af1eca7f8a61574852386c131d5e47685046f68f9
User           : valiantboy1 <valiantboy1>
Return-Code    : Success
Releasever     : 
Command Line   : 
Persistence    : Unknown
Comment        : 
Packages Altered:
    Install dialog-1.3-55.20250116.fc43.x86_64          @fedora
    Install amdgpu-install-6.4.60402-2187269.el9.noarch @@commandline
valiantboy1@192:~$ dnf4 history info 5
Transaction ID : 5
Begin time     : Fri 05 Dec 2025 12:10:48 PM IST
Begin rpmdb    : df578dd8fe738cc696912c6af1eca7f8a61574852386c131d5e47685046f68f9
End time       : Fri 05 Dec 2025 12:10:49 PM IST (1 seconds)
End rpmdb      : 11bcf5f1e08e2a483a408cbe6d86483a143417046d78964a3bf5738f75eb004e
User           : valiantboy1 <valiantboy1>
Return-Code    : Success
Releasever     : 
Command Line   : 
Persistence    : Unknown
Comment        : 
Packages Altered:
    Removed amdgpu-install-6.4.60402-2187269.el9.noarch @@System
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Way too big but yea

[pg-tips (P G)]

So transaction 5 did indeed remove dnf5, which does not sound good. Can you remember exactly what you did in Discover to make this happen?

Can you try to reverse that transaction using sudo dnf4 history undo 5 ?

Side question: do you know where that amdgpu-install package came from? It doesn’t appear to be in the Fedora repos - the .el9. in the name suggests that it’s intended for RHEL or CentOS.

[ilikelinux]

@pg-tips

Can you try to reverse that transaction using sudo dnf4 history undo 5 ?

Install amdgpu-install-6.4.60402-2187269.el9.noarch @@commandline

Looks like installed an epel 9 package manually?!

[valiantboy]

@pg-tips

Can you try to reverse that transaction using sudo dnf4 history undo 5 ?

valiantboy1@192:~$ sudo dnf4 history undo 5
[sudo] password for valiantboy1: 
Copr repo for conky-manager2 owned by geraldosimiao                                                                                    1.9 kB/s | 2.3 kB     00:01    
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Error: The following problems occurred while running a transaction:
  Cannot find rpm nevra "amdgpu-install-6.4.60402-2187269.el9.noarch".

@pg-tips

in the name suggests that it’s intended for RHEL or CentOS.

It was for RHEL
https://www.amd.com/en/support/download/linux-drivers.html
Here is the website I got it.

[pg-tips (P G)]

@valiantboy

Error: The following problems occurred while running a transaction:
  Cannot find rpm nevra "amdgpu-install-6.4.60402-2187269.el9.noarch".

I see. Let’s isolate ourselves from that package then, and try:

sudo dnf4 install dnf5 dnf5-plugins libdnf5-cli dialog bash-completion

[valiantboy]

I did installed it manually because I wasn’t able to full screen any apps.
As of I can think, the dnf5 was removed before my attempt to install AMD drivers manually??

[pg-tips (P G)]

@valiantboy

As of I can think, the dnf5 was removed before my attempt to install AMD drivers manually??

No - look at the history. Transaction 4 is the install of the AMD driver. Transaction 5 removes the AMD driver, and dnf5 and related stuff.

[valiantboy]

@pg-tips

I see. Let’s isolate ourselves from that package then, and try:

Ahhaaaa thank you so much, it did worked. I got the dnf back.

[valiantboy]

I see, so maybe the full screen problem is different then? How can I fix that?

[pg-tips (P G)]

Great. I would recommend starting a new topic about your graphics problems.

I think that installing the RHEL driver isn’t the right solution, but I don’t use an AMD GPU so I don’t have a great idea about what the actual right answer is . Someone else should know better.

[valiantboy]

Alright, thanks again <3

[jkmuller (J Muller)]

Nuts and bolts question here…did “sudo dnf4 history undo" use dnf 4 or was there something else undoing the transaction?