Desktop environment mixing issues

So if you run Fedora 44, and try to install another desktop (trust me I have), you get a black screen. Press Super (win, or win start if you are on a old keyboard from windows) and then, the taskbar appears. Close an app? Taskbar disappears.

Now, here’s a bunch of Inxi information from the desktop that was causing this until I switched to XCinnamon (get it).

brownridgea@Anakin-PC:~$ inxi -Fzxx
System:
Kernel: 7.1.4-204.fc44.x86_64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 16.1.1
Desktop: Cinnamon v: 6.6.7 tk: GTK v: 3.24.52 wm: Muffin dm: LightDM
Distro: Fedora Linux 44 (KDE Plasma Desktop Edition)
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: LENOVO product: 34352JU v: ThinkPad X230 Tablet
serial:  Chassis: type: 10 serial: 
Mobo: LENOVO model: 34352JU serial: 
part-nu: LENOVO_MT_3435 Firmware: UEFI vendor: LENOVO v: GCETB5WW (2.75 )
date: 09/25/2019
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 1.5 Wh (100%) condition: 1.5/62.2 Wh (2.5%)
alert: bad battery? volts: 12.46 min: 11.1 model: LGC 45N1079
serial:  charging: status: full control: start: 0% end: 100%
cycles: N/A
CPU:
Info: dual core model: Intel Core i5-3320M bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Ivy Bridge rev: 9 cache: L1: 128 KiB L2: 512 KiB L3: 3 MiB
Speed (MHz): avg: 1197 min/max: 1200/3300 cores: 1: 1197 2: 1197 3: 1197
4: 1197 bogomips: 20752
Flags-basic: avx ht lm nx pae sse sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 vmx
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel Ivy Bridge mobile GT2 [HD Graphics 4000] vendor: Lenovo
driver: i915 v: kernel arch: Gen-7 ports: active: LVDS-1 empty: DP-1, DP-2,
HDMI-A-1, HDMI-A-2, VGA-1 bus-ID: 00:02.0 chip-ID: 8086:0166
Device-2: Bison ThinkPad Integrated Camera driver: uvcvideo type: USB
rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 2-1.6:6 chip-ID: 5986:02d2
 Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 21.1.24 with: Xwayland v: 24.1.13 driver: X: 
loaded: modesetting alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: crocus gpu: i915
display-ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96
Monitor-1: LVDS-1 model: LG Display 0x02d8 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 125
diag: 318mm (12.5")
API: EGL v: 1.5 platforms: device: 0 drv: crocus device: 1 drv: swrast
gbm: drv: crocus surfaceless: drv: crocus x11: drv: crocus inactive: wayland
API: OpenGL v: 4.6 compat-v: 4.2 vendor: intel mesa v: 26.1.5 glx-v: 1.4
direct-render: yes renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 4000 (IVB GT2)
device-ID: 8086:0166
API: Vulkan v: 1.4.341 surfaces: N/A device: 0 type: integrated-gpu
driver: mesa intel device-ID: 8086:0166 device: 1 type: cpu
driver: mesa llvmpipe device-ID: 10005:0000
Info: Tools: api: clinfo, eglinfo, glxinfo, vulkaninfo
de: kscreen-console,kscreen-doctor wl: wayland-info x11: xdriinfo,
xdpyinfo, xprop, xrandr
Audio:
Device-1: Intel 7 Series/C216 Family High Definition Audio vendor: Lenovo
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:1e20
API: ALSA v: k7.1.4-204.fc44.x86_64 status: kernel-api
Server-1: PipeWire v: 1.6.8 status: active with: 1: pipewire-pulse
status: active 2: wireplumber status: active 3: pipewire-alsa type: plugin
4: pw-jack type: plugin
Network:
Device-1: Intel 82579LM Gigabit Network vendor: Lenovo driver: e1000e
v: kernel port: 6080 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:1502
IF: enp0s25 state: down mac: 
Device-2: Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] driver: iwlwifi
v: kernel pcie: speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 03:00.0 chip-ID: 8086:0085
IF: wlp3s0 state: up mac: 
Bluetooth:
Device-1: Broadcom BCM20702 Bluetooth 4.0 [ThinkPad] driver: btusb v: 0.8
type: USB rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s lanes: 1 bus-ID: 2-1.4:5
chip-ID: 0a5c:21e6
Report: hciconfig ID: hci0 rfk-id: 4 state: up address:  bt-v: 4.0
lmp-v: 6 sub-v: 220e
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 341.46 GiB used: 88.95 GiB (26.0%)
ID-1: /dev/mmcblk0 model: N/A size: 59.69 GiB type: Removable
serial: 
ID-2: /dev/sda vendor: Crucial model: CT240BX500SSD1 size: 223.57 GiB
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial:  temp: 48 C
ID-3: /dev/sdb vendor: Verbatim model: STORE N GO size: 58.2 GiB type: USB
rev: 2.1 spd: 480 Mb/s lanes: 1 serial: 
Partition:
ID-1: / size: 220.98 GiB used: 30.44 GiB (13.8%) fs: btrfs dev: /dev/sda3
ID-2: /boot size: 1.9 GiB used: 444.7 MiB (22.9%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda2
ID-3: /boot/efi size: 598.8 MiB used: 20 MiB (3.3%) fs: vfat
dev: /dev/sda1
ID-4: /home size: 220.98 GiB used: 30.44 GiB (13.8%) fs: btrfs
dev: /dev/sda3
Swap:
ID-1: swap-1 type: zram size: 3.63 GiB used: 3.32 GiB (91.5%) priority: 100
dev: /dev/zram0
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 59.0 C mobo: N/A
Fan Speeds (rpm): fan-1: 3999
Info:
Memory: total: 4 GiB available: 3.63 GiB used: 3.04 GiB (83.6%)
Processes: 376 Power: uptime: 21h 42m wakeups: 2 Init: systemd v: 259
default: graphical
Packages: pm: rpm pkgs: N/A note: see --rpm pm: flatpak pkgs: 9 Compilers:
gcc: 16.1.1 Shell: Bash v: 5.3.9 running-in: gnome-terminal inxi: 3.3.41

So, if you have this problem or anyone knows how to fix this, let me know. Becuase this is a Wayland problem, as ummmmmm… GNOME had problems with distorted things as well The GNOME widgets are all distorted on boot - see here. That’s not with my hardware so hmm… I had the top dash disappear all of the time, when mixing KDE with GNOME. I just can’t find the best! And I need more desktops! Not even a KDE problem, and not a graphics problem, a Wayland problem.

Below is an automated goodbye script. thanks!

Thanks,

Anakin (feel free to check out where things aren’t closed all the time where I post My KDE page)

Can @computersavvy or anyone help with this?

If you use different desktop environments with the same user account, they’ll inevitably write conflicting settings to shared config files. That doesn’t seem connected at all to the display server.

I’d suggest using separate user accounts on your device for different desktop environments.

If a more recent BIOS than 09/25/2019 is available that may change your experience. When reporting issues try to make as easy as possible for others with access to similar hardware to reproduce the issue. Ensuring that Fedora and vendor firmware are current makes it easier for others to reproduce. Multiple desktop environments is not a common use-case. A more common situation is when the preferred desktop doesn’t support one “mission critical” application. In that case a VM can often be useful.

Please use pre-formatted text (`</>’ button or adding lines with 3 back-quotes before and after the terminal output) to make it easier for readers, especially visually impaired users who may rely on text to speech.

If I remember, somewhere on my BIOS (UEFI on mine), it said something that it was 2021 or maybe 2018.

Or maybe 2019? :wink: