Can't get wireplumber to work with kernel version 6.1.x

Since the upgrade to kernel 6.1.x a couple weeks ago, wireplumber (or pipewire) are not functioning . No sound. pw-cli and pactl lock up. Shutdown or reboot never complete waiting for wireplumber and pipewire. The wireplumber team is believing this is a kernel driver issue, and I kind of believe them. I am working with the kernel team on this too. I see this message in the log, but I cannot determine what it means.

wireplumber[1791]: 1 pending linkable(s) not activated in 20sec. This should never happen.

Anybody know the answer?