Can one sell laptops with Fedora preinstalled but with modifications?

I think that even in the case of calling something a Fedora Remix that requires permission from the Fedora Council as you’re stilling using Fedora branding. I think the Fedora Asahi Remix is one example of still needing to get approval for this.

However, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, if you market your custom image as its own thing separate from Fedora then you should be fine. I think I saw Universal Blue mentioned, so they could be a good model for figuring this thing out. At least from what I’ve seen they don’t keep the Fedora logo throughout the OS. The only place that I think is still a sticking point is in the installer. Is that were your concern comes from, assuming you had to go down this route?

My understanding is that no special permission is required if one wants to make a Fedora Remix and fully complies with the Remix policy. Council permission is needed for any deviations though. In the case of Asahi, we requested permission to allow the use the Fedora marks as part of the branding and to allow naming it “Fedora Asahi Remix”. See the ticket and the discussion for more details.

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More later, but, yeah, Davide is right about Fedora Remix.

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Thank you! I’ve spent the entire day trying to find a solution to comply, The page on Fedora Remix states I can distribute modified Fedora versions if I replace certain packages.

However, I’m struggling with Silverblue, particularly with generic-logos, generic-release, and generic-release-notes.

I received this error: "Problem: package generic-logos-18.0.0-23.fc41.noarch from Fedora conflicts with fedora-logos provided by fedora-logos-38.1.0-6.fc41.noarch from @System."

https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Remix#Are_there_other_legal_requirements?

After reading this and your other posts, I have come to the conclusion that you have decided to make a Fedora Silverblue Remix. If this is indeed the case and you are having difficulty with the technical part, you can open a new thread with an appropriate title like “How to Build Fedora Silverblue Remix?” so that we can try to help you.

If you prefer, we can continue to discuss the creation of the remix in some of your other threads, where we can specify exactly what you want and how we can achieve it.

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I will do that now, thanks!!!

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Please don’t create a new one. This one already exists:

I closed that one yesterday as it has became massively blurred and ended up with legal advice in several directions. It was no longer about its actual topic for many posts. See my comment there → About to give up: creating a remix based on Silverblue - #43 by py0xc3

I guess the legal issue was solved here. I think it makes sense to create a new one for the subsequent technical aspects to keep it more focused next time, so that people can review the topic and get only related content. Not sure if it makes sense to reopen the other one given its evolvement and the many off-topic posts. Reopening would provoke users to also answer to the existing legal posts.

So I tend to agree with Hristo’s suggestion. But the remix case should be indeed tackled within one topic and not at the same time in many different.


Supplement: The “how to create a remix” case seems to centralize already here → How to Build Fedora Silverblue Remix?

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We’re working on an update to the trademark guidelines which will relax some things. It’s not finalized yet, but it should soon allow statements like “Built on Fedora Linux”.

However, you can’t call it a “Fedora Silverblue Remix” without special permission. You could do “[Your Clever Name], a Fedora Remix based on Silverblue.”

The modified Fedora content should be referred to only as “Fedora Remix.” Other uses that do not properly indicate the work contains modified Fedora content or non-Fedora content are also not permitted.

The wording may change a little bit, but I expect this to remain in spirit.

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My suggestion for a title “How to Build Fedora Silverblue Remix?” was just an example, but it seems to have been simply copied. Is it appropriate to change the title to “How to build a Fedora Remix based on Silverblue?”

Don’t worry about the topic title. Matthews point is an important consideration when @linuxkernel94 creates and sells his systems. We are relaxed when it comes to topic titles in this respect :wink: @linuxkernel94 can change the title if they want, that might make sense in order to keep this important point in mind when “naming” the remix that you currently develop in that topic. But the topic title ain’t a violation or so :classic_smiley:

Also, I think his point was meant in general to resolve the topic and answer the question of @linuxkernel94 since there are a lot of rumors spread among the two previous topics. I don’t think he was specifically referring to you (in case that was your perception) :wink:

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Given the many different advice that is around in the two topics, I took the liberty to mark Matthew’s comment as solution to forward other users with that question to that post.

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Thank you, Chris. I truly appreciate everyone’s assistance, and I’m at a loss for words to express my gratitude. :smile:

Before we close this topic, I would like to obtain a legal contact from Fedora to get their approval when my remix is complete. Is this the correct email: fedora-legal@redhat.com?

Thanks once again for your patience and support.
Wishing you all a wonderful day!

Why dont you use ublue distros

Please stay on topic. I would like to avoid that this topic develops like the last one. Also, ublue was already considered in the last topic.

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Instead of selling

Laptop, Fedora pre-installed and customized 4000,00

Would everything be proper by just changing the invoice to

Laptop                                   50,00
Fedora Edition Software                   0,00
Other FLOSS Software                      0,00
Installation and customization service 3950,00
                                       =======
Amout due                              4000,00

They’d have to be actually separate in some way. If you ship the software installed and “mixed together”… that’s a Remix.

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