Yes — the plan is to have the URLs for all migrated topics redirect to their new locations on Discussion. These will use the HTTP code which indicates that content has moved permanently, so search engines will over time update to point directly to the new location.
You’ll notice that Discourse topic URLs don’t actually encode the category, so it’s just a matter of new hostname and new number.
I wish we could have done that last time we moved Ask, but then we had lost control of the original site. Here we are in a better situation and have both sides. We are also arranging for CDCK to provide us with automatic full-database backups, so we’ll have that as a fallback in some very-worst-case situation.
for basically ideological reasons, they call them that instead of “threads” ↩︎
Excellent! I’m impressed by the way this is being handled . Once the dust settles, it should be a good improvement for end-users and hopefully get people who come in for support more engaged in the project in general. Thanks to all who worked/are working to make this happen!
So just to set the record straight as a normal Fedora user, should I be making topics/bug reports on ask.fedora or discussion.fedora from here on out? Sorry I’m just a little confused, as I’ve always only used ask.fedora for bug reports and help.
ask.fp.o will continue to exist. The difference is, it will be one instance instead of two. With the new “the enterprise contract” we do have enough capacity to run everything together.
No need to have two different logins anymore. So if you are watching on ask.fp.o you can read anonymous or with the account you are using on discussion.fp.o if you do not have one yet your existing here gets:
Yes. Login is already shared. If there isnt an existing account here, the existing profile will be left, but if there isnt, the one from Ask will be migrated. (I can’t think of a sensible way to merge them, really…)
Hmm, then why is it asking me to create a user when I login with my credentials at the discussion forum:
Anyway, I don’t know whether discourse uses a primary key internally that is different from the userid. If so, it might be a bit problematic to move over the topics and keep the association with the userid…
I’m curious about what this will mean for history and TL, etc., between the two (unless you were strictly referring to the profile page?). Will activity, badges, etc. on ask.fp.o not end up reflected on the discussion.fp.o account? It looks like there may have been a way added to do this kind of merge, though I don’t know that it includes merging profile or TL?
I assume once the activity is merged between the accounts, the badges should automatically follow, assuming the Discourse requirements are the same between the two instances, right? Stuff like “Popular link”, etc.
As ask.fp.o is still a separate domain, could we not go one for more a year with the statistics/badges for this year and look for a integration of this peoples effort who really gave quite a lot of manpower?
A nice example is the user @vgaetera, since I started he was always here and helped. With more complex questions he was the one who found a solution.
A other example is @computersavvy, if we left of the Nvidia troubles because they appeared in a huge amount, he was the one who repeated hundreds of times how users have to salvage their system. With a lot of patient he went thru all the steps needed to give assistance. This is just a small part of effort i mention here.
I find it sad that just because of a peace of software and of missing effort a part of the community looses their recognition.
I believed we do talk about a integration in to d.fp.o and not a clean an wipe, to start over.
I’m perplexed. You are right — it is an integration, not a “clean wipe” or “start over”.
I don’t see why that would be. I’m proposing we create some appropriate badges for https://badges.fedoraproject.org/, because I think that’s better than have a separate, isolated system — and because Discourse’s built-in badges are kind of bland by comparison anyway. But there’s no reason the criteria for those badges would need to start at the merge point — it seems perfectly reasonable to include all the work everyone has put in so far.
Yes, as previously discussed, Trust Level should not go down.
I’m in favor of this, personally. Perhaps using certain existing user activity based criteria for current badges as a baseline for Fedora badges and retroactively crediting previous activity after the merger would check all the boxes and give a better way forward for managing badges here. I like the idea of badges here being consolidated in Fedora Badges and hopefully it also incentives people who get involved here to consider getting involved in other parts of Fedora as well through discovering other community badges in the process that otherwise haven’t been visible on ask.fp.o.
There are some open questions, though. See the following topic for thoughts on how to handle tags shared between Project Discussion (that is, topics for the people working on a particular subproject or team) and Ask Fedora (generally end-user support and help).